Googling the end quote brings me to this page http://ameblo.jp/len333
Scrolling down I see post containing “CLANNAD”
Date posted 12/28/2007
Rewriting the date however
you can write it in english format as 12/28/07
Rearrange that
07/28/12
Was that supposed to be serious? I get the feeling it wasn’t.
Anyways, that end quote is in various places, but one is the beginning of the Tomoyo After OP
Only the line in quotes makes sense but it looks like an english sentence composed by a japanese person (go TO look, treasure of THE life).
The other lines dont make much sense. The first sentence can basically be read backwards, but again, there are extra words. Maybe japanese translated with babelfish?
The numbers were backwards, right (A=26, Z=1, etc.)?
So the riddle is backwards (except the part in quotes).
third person enters, smells, now awakened
star a point from birthdays past beckoned
solve this you must, in riddle speak
to learn the date in which you seek
I’ll provide the answer once there seems to be a general consensus on the answer, or when people provide their calculated dates along with a short explanation as to how they got to their respective dates.
I found several dates that could be plausible… Damnit, I have no idea how to figure out wich ones aren’t possible. Oh well, I’ll come back to it later again! 🙂
seek you which in date the learn to
speak riddle in must, you this solve
beckoned past birthdays from point a star
awakened now smells enters, person third
“lets go to look for the treasure of the life”
It becomes:
To learn the date in which you seek,
Solve this, you must, in riddle speak,
Star a point, from birthdays past, beckoned,
Third person, enter smells now awakened,
“Lets go to look for the treasure of life”
Deciphered, it’s saying form a star over everything with the points falling on the the birthdays of the Heroines of the Original Clannad. The last line before the quote puzzles me a bit, but I think it has something to do with Tomoya’s long absence during Tomoyo After.
I don’t know the birthdays of Tomoyo, Nagisa, Kyou, Fuuko, or Kotomi to form a star over the code, but I believe it is something like this:
I really like your thought process, but I’m afraid you’re over-thinking things a little. You’re definitely on the right track, though. The last line [EDIT: before the quote] is important to the riddle.
Then I’m voting for June 28th again. In the game on June 28th, there’s a scene where (depending on your choices) Tomoya smells Tomoyo’s breath and then Takafumi (a third person) enters the scene and asks about it.
the mentioning of birthdays and awakening gave me an idea:
how many birthdays did Fuko spend in comatose? seven?
what day did she wake up on? May 16th? (I haven’t played the VN yet—on the VN rotation currently)
May 16th has already passed (if we estimate the year as 2011, however). so, we replace our month number (5) with the birthdays “missed” (7) and get 07/16/1?, or June 16th, 201?
SEEK YOU WHICH IN DATE THE LEARN TO
SPEAK RIDDLE IN MUST, YOU THIS SOLVE
BECKONED PAST BIRTHDAYS FROM POINT A STAR
AWAKENED NOW SMELLS, ENTERS, PERSON THIRD
“LETS GO TO LOOK FOR THE TREASURE OF THE LIFE”
——————————————————
That’s basically what the message said, I think somebody used
google translate on the first 4 lines because they don’t make
any grammatical sense. Here’s my edit to the message (what I think the writer ment):
SEARCHING FOR YOU IN THE TIME WERE YOU LEARNED TO SPEAK RIDDLE, YOU SOLVE THIS AND PAST BIRTHDAYS WILL AWAKEN. FROM A POINTED STAR A THRID PERSON ENTERS AND BECKONED YOU AND SAID “LETS GO LOOK FOR THE TREASURE OF LIFE”.
It still doesn’t make very much sense but this is the best I can get out of it.
No, I’m pretty sure the words are just in reverse order, like how the letters were in reverse order in the code (A=26, etc.)
to learn the date in which you seek
solve this you must, in riddle speak
star a point from birthdays past beckoned
third person enters, smells, now awakened
‘third person enters, smells, now awakened’
There is a question i would like to ask Why the 2 commas?Out of every sentence this is the strangest sentence.You dont even have a clue what to link to.I almost imagine the commas to become slash……and the no . words to dates
Anon is right, but you must take it one step further.
Like the (A=26, etc.) and that the reversed word order. You must also reverse the sentence order to get:
“let’s go to look for the treasure of the life”
third person enters, smells, now awakened
star a point from birthdays past beckoned
solve this you must, in riddle speak
to learn the date in which you seek
No, the translation is a simple code where a number corresponds to a letter (in this case, reverse alphabetical order). The existing translation is correct. What meaning it has, is less clear.
I feel like everyone’s passed me up within a couple days. I understood the simple coding piece of 1-26 and when doing it nothing made sense so doing it backwards I ended up with what most others here got, but that’s just about as far i can go without spending an entire week on it most likely. I feel so stupid because I haven’t done riddles in forever.
Maybe everybody has already realised this; but I feel I can’t keep it to myself. It’s probably nothing significant though.
The number “22” is repeated exactly 22 times in the code.
Hope I uh…helped?
“Third person, enters, smells now awakened
star a point from birthdays past beckoned
solve this you, must in riddle speak
to learn the date in which you seek.”
Made me think of tomoya’s substitution trick with Ryou on fuko. and fuko’s birthday is July 20th.
Holy fuck, I just read that line before the quote… WHEN THE HELL IS USHIO’S BIRTHDAY!?!?!?!
Third person = Ushio because…
Smells beckoned, Fuko smelled Ushio at the last episode in the anime, and now awakened, Ushio woke up. The date being referred to either has to be the day in the game Fuko smelled Ushio or Ushio’s birthday.
Tricky tricky of you, Clannad Man. But if that isnt right, then fuuuuuuuu—
Admittedly, there are two very accurate theories as to the date of PURPORTED release. There’s June 28th, which is the day Tomoya asks to smell Tomoyo’s breath, and the third person, Takafumi, enters.
Alternatively, there is July 20th, which is Fuuko’s birthday, because as we all know, Fuuko is a third-person person, and her symbol is the starfish. Additionally, I have to cite Bo’s example of the substitution trick.
However, I think it may be just me, but isn’t that line a quote from the Baka-Tsuki translation of Tomoyo After?
I don’t really see how people bring Fuko into the equation unless they relate the “star” to a starfish, but that seems like a bit of a stretch. However, apparently I have the same birthday as Fuko, so I’m not opposed to having the patch released on the 20th of July.
I’m going to go with the 28th of July or the 16th/26th of June. Tried many things and the 2 most logical solutions that I got were those 2 dates. I’m really excited to see the answer but for now my only hopes are for the answer to be at close to my answers.
Balls! this is some tricky sh*t. The cipher was easy to figure out… the riddle slightly less. I’ve tried all kinds of ideas most do not make sense, some that do…I’m currently stuck.
@Warrof While I love cryptograms and riddles(Cryptoriddle! …(>_>) I too tried to ignore this ,but in the end it won…Damn you, Clannad Man for making something so evil yet fun. (^_~)
In my deliberations I’m assuming a few things.
1. The realse date is some time this year, most likly nearby.
2. The answer I realativly simple to figure out useing only the Clannad franchise as reference.
3. That the riddle is definatly the answer somehow.
Okay, im assuming everyone knows by now that the replaceing the numbers with letters come up with a readable but broken “riddle.”
Noticing this I thought to run that through Google Translator to Japanese, then run the Japanese Translation back to English. That resulted in something a bit better on the grammer. It also changed the meaning of all the sentences, however I can’t think of where to go from here.
Here is what I got:
This study to determine the Sun
And must not speak a riddle, to solve this
Beckoning from the point past birthday star
Awakening, now enters, one-third of the human smell
“Go to find the treasure of life can be”
The first line I think is easy, It refer to the date thing in the corner.
The second line probably means the answer is simple. Example “Speak Friend and Enter”
I can only guess that the third line mean some time after a birthday, however none of the characters have a birthday that would be nearby, thus making this whole exercise pointless. However Clannad was originally released April 28. That date is close to now and must somehow be connected.
The fourth line translated is definantly confuseing to me. how a human smell could have anything to do with a date I don’t know. Other than it may refer to to first day they show after the five year jump from nagisa’s death, however I can’t check this cause the Clannad Translation is incomplete and it doesn’t show the date for that day.
The fifth line is straighforward, figure out this “figure out this riddle and you’ll probably know when the release date is.
I should clarify, on the fourth line “1/3 of a human smell”, may refer to the fact that for a brief time 3 people lived in Tomoya’s apartment in After Story arc, thus the first time they show the apartment is nearly five year later when only tomoya lives there.
okay i don;t know this when i posted my idea, but it turns out that the Fifth line of mine is majorly incorrect. It should be “lets go to look for the treasure of the life”. Since this line refers to Tomoyo After itself im thinking that it either refers to somthing in Tomoyo After itself or it has nothing to do with the riddle other than “If you figure out the riddle to get the release date.”
The keywords to the date should be “stars” and “birthdays”
Because stars could represent a certain date like the north star etc.
Googling the end quote brings me to this page
http://ameblo.jp/len333
Scrolling down I see post containing “CLANNAD”
Date posted 12/28/2007
Rewriting the date however
you can write it in english format as 12/28/07
Rearrange that
07/28/12
Thank me later
Was that supposed to be serious? I get the feeling it wasn’t.
Anyways, that end quote is in various places, but one is the beginning of the Tomoyo After OP
Could re-arrange that to 12/07/28.
See you in 2028!
I would cry.
I would die.
07/05/12
07 – the number of birthdays past for Fuko (she was in a coma for 7 years)
05 – the number of points on a star
12 – Star – Christmas star; Christmas = Jeebus’ birthday
😐
Only the line in quotes makes sense but it looks like an english sentence composed by a japanese person (go TO look, treasure of THE life).
The other lines dont make much sense. The first sentence can basically be read backwards, but again, there are extra words. Maybe japanese translated with babelfish?
The numbers were backwards, right (A=26, Z=1, etc.)?
So the riddle is backwards (except the part in quotes).
third person enters, smells, now awakened
star a point from birthdays past beckoned
solve this you must, in riddle speak
to learn the date in which you seek
“let’s go to look for the treasure of the life”
Interesting. Not sure if I’ve got it. But I can wait.
I’m a robot and this is just a Red Robins menu in my language. I think you guys are being trolled.
My dear robot, the Clannad Man does not troll.
Not like this, at least.
Are you going to tell us the answer?
Or make us keep guessing?
I’ll provide the answer once there seems to be a general consensus on the answer, or when people provide their calculated dates along with a short explanation as to how they got to their respective dates.
I found several dates that could be plausible… Damnit, I have no idea how to figure out wich ones aren’t possible. Oh well, I’ll come back to it later again! 🙂
Was fun so far at least xD
The first two lines sound like a cryptic crossword. I was never good at those 🙁
Isn’t July the time when the english clannad after story bd is going to be released?
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/press-release/2012-04-11/section23-films-announces-july-slate
I hope there’s something coming ^^
Fuuko’s birthday is 20th July. (That probably doesn’t have anything to do with anything.)
Mine is 26 July. Does that have anything to do with this?
~( ̄ー ̄)~ who knows?
You read the lines in reverse order.
After replacement algorithmic:
seek you which in date the learn to
speak riddle in must, you this solve
beckoned past birthdays from point a star
awakened now smells enters, person third
“lets go to look for the treasure of the life”
It becomes:
To learn the date in which you seek,
Solve this, you must, in riddle speak,
Star a point, from birthdays past, beckoned,
Third person, enter smells now awakened,
“Lets go to look for the treasure of life”
Deciphered, it’s saying form a star over everything with the points falling on the the birthdays of the Heroines of the Original Clannad. The last line before the quote puzzles me a bit, but I think it has something to do with Tomoya’s long absence during Tomoyo After.
I don’t know the birthdays of Tomoyo, Nagisa, Kyou, Fuuko, or Kotomi to form a star over the code, but I believe it is something like this:
(Example, not actual solution)
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s21/draken_benvolaid/DokiClannadRiddleExample.jpg
“Life is like a Melody,
It has its highs and its lows,
Repeats and refrains,
Strong tones and kind notes,
And its beginnings and its ends,
Yet, even after it is all over,
The melody, itself, is the one thing that is most memorable.”
but tomoyo’s birthday is oct 14 and there’s no 10 in that message
I really like your thought process, but I’m afraid you’re over-thinking things a little. You’re definitely on the right track, though. The last line [EDIT: before the quote] is important to the riddle.
So we’re looking for the treasure – it’s not just a riddle but a treasure hunt! The numbers were the gps coordinates of the first clue.
I’m talking more so about the line before the quote. My mistake. But if you happen to find some treasure, by all means, let me know about it!
Then I’m voting for June 28th again. In the game on June 28th, there’s a scene where (depending on your choices) Tomoya smells Tomoyo’s breath and then Takafumi (a third person) enters the scene and asks about it.
Also, June 28th is the sate of the first day in the game, so it would just be cool to release the translation on that day.
the mentioning of birthdays and awakening gave me an idea:
how many birthdays did Fuko spend in comatose? seven?
what day did she wake up on? May 16th? (I haven’t played the VN yet—on the VN rotation currently)
May 16th has already passed (if we estimate the year as 2011, however). so, we replace our month number (5) with the birthdays “missed” (7) and get 07/16/1?, or June 16th, 201?
SEEK YOU WHICH IN DATE THE LEARN TO
SPEAK RIDDLE IN MUST, YOU THIS SOLVE
BECKONED PAST BIRTHDAYS FROM POINT A STAR
AWAKENED NOW SMELLS, ENTERS, PERSON THIRD
“LETS GO TO LOOK FOR THE TREASURE OF THE LIFE”
——————————————————
That’s basically what the message said, I think somebody used
google translate on the first 4 lines because they don’t make
any grammatical sense. Here’s my edit to the message (what I think the writer ment):
SEARCHING FOR YOU IN THE TIME WERE YOU LEARNED TO SPEAK RIDDLE, YOU SOLVE THIS AND PAST BIRTHDAYS WILL AWAKEN. FROM A POINTED STAR A THRID PERSON ENTERS AND BECKONED YOU AND SAID “LETS GO LOOK FOR THE TREASURE OF LIFE”.
It still doesn’t make very much sense but this is the best I can get out of it.
No, I’m pretty sure the words are just in reverse order, like how the letters were in reverse order in the code (A=26, etc.)
to learn the date in which you seek
solve this you must, in riddle speak
star a point from birthdays past beckoned
third person enters, smells, now awakened
“let’s go to look for the treasure of the life”
When you put it that way, it rhymes and makes sense
‘third person enters, smells, now awakened’
There is a question i would like to ask Why the 2 commas?Out of every sentence this is the strangest sentence.You dont even have a clue what to link to.I almost imagine the commas to become slash……and the no . words to dates
given your idea of the commas becoming slashes, the estimated date would be 17/06/11, or June 17th, 2011
EDIT:and counting the [letters, not words]
my apologies
Anon is right, but you must take it one step further.
Like the (A=26, etc.) and that the reversed word order. You must also reverse the sentence order to get:
“let’s go to look for the treasure of the life”
third person enters, smells, now awakened
star a point from birthdays past beckoned
solve this you must, in riddle speak
to learn the date in which you seek
This might help.
No, the translation is a simple code where a number corresponds to a letter (in this case, reverse alphabetical order). The existing translation is correct. What meaning it has, is less clear.
anonymous beat me to pointing it out.
Are the commas significant?
The commas placed in the original code only served A) to signify that words were being formed and B) to signify a separation of important terms.
I feel like everyone’s passed me up within a couple days. I understood the simple coding piece of 1-26 and when doing it nothing made sense so doing it backwards I ended up with what most others here got, but that’s just about as far i can go without spending an entire week on it most likely. I feel so stupid because I haven’t done riddles in forever.
Maybe everybody has already realised this; but I feel I can’t keep it to myself. It’s probably nothing significant though.
The number “22” is repeated exactly 22 times in the code.
Hope I uh…helped?
Going with July 1st. Why? Because Tomoyo After the visual novel whispered this date into my ear. No seriously the game can tell you 😛
Passage read backwards reads:
“Third person, enters, smells now awakened
star a point from birthdays past beckoned
solve this you, must in riddle speak
to learn the date in which you seek.”
Made me think of tomoya’s substitution trick with Ryou on fuko. and fuko’s birthday is July 20th.
Holy fuck, I just read that line before the quote… WHEN THE HELL IS USHIO’S BIRTHDAY!?!?!?!
Third person = Ushio because…
Smells beckoned, Fuko smelled Ushio at the last episode in the anime, and now awakened, Ushio woke up. The date being referred to either has to be the day in the game Fuko smelled Ushio or Ushio’s birthday.
Tricky tricky of you, Clannad Man. But if that isnt right, then fuuuuuuuu—
*Entter smells, now awakened.
December 24? idk when fuko smelled him
http://clannad.wikia.com/wiki/Ushio_Okazaki
An important date for all of after story
oh! does fuko do this in the VN too. If so maybe its the date of that scene in the VN?
Admittedly, there are two very accurate theories as to the date of PURPORTED release. There’s June 28th, which is the day Tomoya asks to smell Tomoyo’s breath, and the third person, Takafumi, enters.
Alternatively, there is July 20th, which is Fuuko’s birthday, because as we all know, Fuuko is a third-person person, and her symbol is the starfish. Additionally, I have to cite Bo’s example of the substitution trick.
However, I think it may be just me, but isn’t that line a quote from the Baka-Tsuki translation of Tomoyo After?
I ended up with June 28th as the date.
I don’t really see how people bring Fuko into the equation unless they relate the “star” to a starfish, but that seems like a bit of a stretch. However, apparently I have the same birthday as Fuko, so I’m not opposed to having the patch released on the 20th of July.
I’m going to go with the 28th of July or the 16th/26th of June. Tried many things and the 2 most logical solutions that I got were those 2 dates. I’m really excited to see the answer but for now my only hopes are for the answer to be at close to my answers.
Anywhom, I can’t wait until the VN is out. :3
Good luck with this guys, I hate brain teasers/puzzles with a passion.
There is one puzzle in Phantasy Star Universe: Ambition of the Illuminus that made me want to destroy my controller multiple times.
too late, my brain is already trying to figure it out.
This made my day, i’m so excited now.
Balls! this is some tricky sh*t. The cipher was easy to figure out… the riddle slightly less. I’ve tried all kinds of ideas most do not make sense, some that do…I’m currently stuck.
@Warrof While I love cryptograms and riddles(Cryptoriddle! …(>_>) I too tried to ignore this ,but in the end it won…Damn you, Clannad Man for making something so evil yet fun. (^_~)
In my deliberations I’m assuming a few things.
1. The realse date is some time this year, most likly nearby.
2. The answer I realativly simple to figure out useing only the Clannad franchise as reference.
3. That the riddle is definatly the answer somehow.
Okay, im assuming everyone knows by now that the replaceing the numbers with letters come up with a readable but broken “riddle.”
Noticing this I thought to run that through Google Translator to Japanese, then run the Japanese Translation back to English. That resulted in something a bit better on the grammer. It also changed the meaning of all the sentences, however I can’t think of where to go from here.
Here is what I got:
This study to determine the Sun
And must not speak a riddle, to solve this
Beckoning from the point past birthday star
Awakening, now enters, one-third of the human smell
“Go to find the treasure of life can be”
The first line I think is easy, It refer to the date thing in the corner.
The second line probably means the answer is simple. Example “Speak Friend and Enter”
I can only guess that the third line mean some time after a birthday, however none of the characters have a birthday that would be nearby, thus making this whole exercise pointless. However Clannad was originally released April 28. That date is close to now and must somehow be connected.
The fourth line translated is definantly confuseing to me. how a human smell could have anything to do with a date I don’t know. Other than it may refer to to first day they show after the five year jump from nagisa’s death, however I can’t check this cause the Clannad Translation is incomplete and it doesn’t show the date for that day.
The fifth line is straighforward, figure out this “figure out this riddle and you’ll probably know when the release date is.
I should clarify, on the fourth line “1/3 of a human smell”, may refer to the fact that for a brief time 3 people lived in Tomoya’s apartment in After Story arc, thus the first time they show the apartment is nearly five year later when only tomoya lives there.
okay i don;t know this when i posted my idea, but it turns out that the Fifth line of mine is majorly incorrect. It should be “lets go to look for the treasure of the life”. Since this line refers to Tomoyo After itself im thinking that it either refers to somthing in Tomoyo After itself or it has nothing to do with the riddle other than “If you figure out the riddle to get the release date.”
Someday in July is my guess, to lazy to check for dates to confirm my deductions ┐( ̄ー ̄)┌