Keyfags rejoice.
Scans included.
Forgot to add scans to FLAC version, grab them from here!
As always you can listen to these tracks over at our music site.
FLAC: [Doki] Rockstar Busters! Little Busters! Arrange Album (FLAC) [89058ED9].rar
MP3 (320 kbps): [Doki] Rockstar Busters! Little Busters! Arrange Album (MP3) [1924C6FF].rar
Sunday 12th August 2012 
9:49 AM 
Have you guys considered releasing in Apple Lossless (ALAC) instead of FLAC?
Seem a bit more convenient given that it’s well supported on Windows and Mac OS X via iTunes and is open sourced so Linux people shouldn’t have too much trouble either.
FLAC is kind of troublesome in that you need to download 3rd-party software to play – something I’m not fond of doing because I’m paranoid about installing “untrusted” 3rd-party software from the net.
FLAC is more efficient than ALAC and it’s not Apple. Even if Apple open sourced it it’s not like FLAC that was opensource from the start. And you can reencode to ALAC if you want because it’s lossless
By the way the link for the music site is for the true tears soundtrack.
Anything related to Apple can suck my dick.
Even if it’s complete open-source now and has next to nothing to do with Apple?
It’s just a piece of technology. Does it matter who created it?
It’s not as if Apple is getting any money from you using it.
FLAC is open source you idiot, and more supported than Apple shit. What fucking player doesn’t support it?
No, I’d say that instead of shitty old mp3, Doki should release in Vorbis.
I know. What makes you think I don’t?
But so is ALAC which is supported by a well known “safe” download of a media player known as iTunes.
FLAC is supported by Foobar, probably Winamp. Winamp is probably safe. Foobar is highly likely safe too but it is by some guy on the web …
“Apple shit”
Probably no point arguing with “religious” people like you – the Apple haters in my experience are as bad (and stupid) as the Apple fanboys.
Says the guy who is going on about “safe” programs, paranoid much?
FLAC > ALAC, simple as.
@Ixlone
Just floating the idea out there that it might be more convenient for most people – iTunes is one of the most (if not the most) popular music player out there. Didn’t expect such a “response”.
You know if you want to hate Apple … it’s fine with me. Everyone has something they hate to a somewhat irrational extend. That said, it is a “fault”. And as an OCD suffer trust me, I know about about irrational impulses.
Personally I try to download as little “compiled by random dude on internet” software as I can. Stuff from major corporations are alright to me. Sure there are security holes and occasionally they do stupid things, but it’s an order of a magnitude safer that “random dude on the internet” IMHO.
You trust more companies like Apple than some random software found in the internet with the source available?
@Meneldal
You are not seriously comparing the safety of software put out by the likes of MS/Apple on their MSN network/support site with random software floating around on the internet are you?
If you think they are equally trustworthy … OKKKK.
A light-weight music player with no bloat, open source so that I look at the code and change what I want, and constantly updated to make things better.
VS
Hueg 500MB+ music suites that are full of bloat and things that most people won’t need, closed source so you really don’t know wtf the program is doing when you’re not looking, and updates and features that all depend on when the company wants to release them. Did I mention a 20+ page EULA that forbids you from suing the company? You’d better hope they aren’t collecting private information from you, because you won’t be able to sue them!
ALAC is still not as supported on many devices, the exception being of course, Apple devices. Just convert it like the other person said.
I don’t mind running conversions but requiring me to download and use “untrusted” 3rd party software compiled by god knows who is what freaking me out.
Again tinfoil hat…
@Ixlone
I’m not deny I’m paranoid – better safe than sorry. But there are other reason why ALAC might be better as I mentioned above.
lol, you must have a really boring computer if you won’t use anything that’s not “trusted” software.
Flac is way more supported than ALAC in hardware players (not that i give a crap about them);
Flac can be played in VLC, MPC-HC, winamp (i dont know if it requires any special plugin to do so), mplayer, foobar, amarok (i used this one for a long time under linux) and i’m prety sure mac users can install VLC in their OS;
If you dont trust in at least of the “companies” that made the software i specified you should look for a psychologist.
I hope you dont rage/hate on my comment cause well all i said is true ┐(￣ー￣)┌ http://images.hologfx.com/Ixlone/Yuru%20Yuri/qUcyy.png
VLC, Winamp (with plugin), mplayer, foobar … actually just about anything that supports FLAC supports ALAC as well these days.
I don’t deny I’m paranoid. I’m really cautious when it comes to stuff I get from the net.
I install stuff from such “companies” if I absolutely have to, but I rather not.
I find funny that you appear to trust apple when their security is known to have more holes than Swiss cheese (proven fact).
@ guest1
Actually their security has been decent since Mac OS X 10.7 – as good as MS’s.
To me it’s the different between downloading from well known megacorp vs downloading from “random dude on the internet”. You have to forgive me if I don’t find the latter all that trustworthy. ><
Being as secure as MS is not really a good thing xD
@guest1
I know. >.>
But it’s the best anyone can manage. People bitch a lot about MS when it comes to security, in the past yes they deserved it, but now it’s hard to argue they aren’t already trying their best.
PS: So I can expect future releases to be in WebM format? Because H.264 has Apple technology you know. ; )
http://www.mpegla.com/main/programs/AVC/Pages/Licensors.aspx
Because H.264>All for video. No open source codec did better and they use an open source encoder that gives nothing to Apple.
It’s still implementing Apple’s technology.
So if someone wrote an ALAC encoder from scratch, they will be willing to use it?
Apple technology?
Apple just bought patents and they get royalties for the H.264 that’s all. And if something is really better you use it because it’d be stupid not to. Or if you don’t want H.264, you’ll get bigger files for the same quality.
@Meneldal
“And if something is really better you use it because it’d be stupid not to. ”
Exactly. 😉
No objection from me here.
>ALAC
fuck you, weeaboo
Lol, anyway how you doing Index?
Great, here. How ’bout you?
I’m good, shame about the drama.
Made a comment when there was only 18 comments here asking him to let it go. I come back now to see him still at it with 50 more posts no less.
Shame ppl have to be so ungreatful, it doesn’t take much to thank someone for providing something for free no less.
Personally think some ppl should accept whats given and move on, Doki has no issues with ppl converting their stuff for personal use shrug.
I have a great solution if you don’t want to put up with ixlone’s shitty third-party FLAC encodes:
http://www.amazon.co.jp/Rockstar-Busters-~Little-Arrange-Album~/dp/B001CSMJJY
Otherwise, STFU.
Would have loved to see like 50 comments from 50 different users all going: WTF is ALAC
To be honest I was saying that myself. Had to do a search and shocked Apple has a loss-less. I’ll just stick with FLAC ain’t gonna re-encode all my FLAC just to use it on CPU hog iTunes.
I had the same reaction, I had never heard of ALAC until I read this thread. :-/
Wasn’t saying it once good enough?
Ah, oops! Right you are! Forgot I already said that! ^^’
I prefer we leave “faboyism” out of the discussion. So whether it’s from Apple’s R&D labs or not and whether it’s open sourced from the start (it is now; under Apache 2 so IIR no potential patent ambush problems) or not, should not matter.
From a technical and user-friendliness perspective, ALAC is a better choice. As I mentioned it’s well support on Windows and Mac via iTunes (a very popular – and safe to use; zero threat of malware infection – media player). On Linux, I sure there are ALAC capable players and people who are capable of using and maintaining the OS can figure out how to automate conversion if they want to use other formats.
To convert FLAC, I need 3rd-party software which I already mentioned I’m not particular fond of risking my computer over.
This is in reply to Meneldal.
>ALAC is a better choice
Don’t joke with me
>On Linux, I sure there are ALAC capable players and people who are capable of using and maintaining the OS can figure out how to automate conversion if they want to use other formats.
Just tell me, how many player that support this half-assed format?
foobar2k, AIMP, Ulilith, Winamp, Songbird, Rhythmbox, XBMC, and many more support FLAC
What about ALAC? iTunes? go away, weeaboo!
btw, FLAC is supported by more hardware devices than competing lossless compressed formats
“Don’t joke with me”
IMO from a user-friendliness perspective. Yes.
“What about ALAC?”
VLC, mplayer, XMBC, Plex, Boxee, Songbird, Winamp (with Essentials plugin) … actually just about anything that plays FLAC. Support and spread since it’s open source now.
How many well-known players by a trusted corporation play FLAC? I thought so.
“btw, FLAC is supported by more hardware devices than competing lossless compressed formats”
In a market dominated by iPods …
Anyway, given your “go away wee boo” (whatever that means) attitude, I doubt anything I write is going to change you mind. I get it you hate Apple with a passion, they are like the 3rd reich to you. Errr … alright.
Trusted corps? Take off the tinfoil hat.
Everything plays FLAC just fine, and I don’t know why are you are even continuing, cos I’m not going to encode anything in apple shit.
“Trusted corps?”
It’s beats random dude on the net!
“Everything plays FLAC just fine, and I don’t know why are you are even continuing, cos I’m not going to encode anything in apple shit.”
No problem. I know I’m not going to convince you. But that doesn’t mean I can’t continue this conversation can I.
Let’s ask 1000 people, “Which one do you prefer? FLAC or ALAC for your lossless song?”
I imagine some ppl will said,”wtfisalac?”
>user-friendliness perspective
Invalid. half-assed format with half-assed player is not user friendly
I think it’s useless to discuss it anymore because now it’s clearly that you really are apple faggot/fanboy.
“Causal” computer user double click FLAC file … Windows doesn’t recognise the file.
“Causal” computer user who is highly likely to have heard of iTunes and have it installed, double click ALAC file … iTunes starts up.
“I think it’s useless to discuss it anymore because now it’s clearly that you really are apple faggot/fanboy.”
You know, not everyone who uses Apple’s products are “fanboys” who are nuts about everything they sell. If it works well, I get it. If it doesn’t, fuck them.
If you wish to hold on to this mistaken belief … err OK.
As I have mentioned, IMO Apple haters are just on the different side of the crazy coin (that Apple fanboys are on).
Casual user will also have any other media player installed rather than itunes.
People watching anime will most likely have installed a codec pack, and with that you play FLAC fine. It’s not like someone going on doki has a computer able to play H.264 Hi10P but can’t play FLAC.
Why trust Apple and not Google? These two conglomerates see everyone as both the customer and a product not a human being wanting privacy and security. Your information is of value to them.
iTunes. Basically one of the players I hate the most. I don’t care if it’s a free player, as long as I don’t know what Apple put in this I don’t want to use it. The codec itself may be opensourced but iTunes isn’t and as for the malware/spyware part I wouldn’t trust Apple. And even if ALAC is supported by iPhone/iPod and not FLAC Doki won’t do something for Apple users.
“I don’t care if it’s a free player, as long as I don’t know what Apple put in this I don’t want to use it. ”
I respect you decision. Same reason I don’t use Chrome. I have no idea what Google is gathering behind the scenes and isn’t telling me.
“And even if ALAC is supported by iPhone/iPod and not FLAC Doki won’t do something for Apple users.”
But this is just being stupid.
Pretty sure the apple users can use their overpriced devices to encode FLAC into whatever other format they want.
What is it to you if people are willing to pay for Apple’s “overpriced” hardware? I think it’s kind of fucked up when people try to tell others how to live their life and/or spend their money.
Sure they can transcode – I’m just reluctant to because I need to use 3rd party software; Windows users need 3rd party software too, WMP to my knowledge doesn’t support FLAC out of the box.
As I said, I’m just floating the idea. I will just download both and use the MP3 version – the lossless version is just me being anal because I can’t hear the difference half the time LOL.
You seem to be confusing me mocking people for paying 3x the price of something with me telling someone how to live their lives.
How you can confuse those two very different things is beyond me.
@Ixlone
Well, implicitly you are saying they shouldn’t.
Lets be honest here, you are far from neutral when it come to this “discussion”. So I don’t interpret your statements from such a perspective.
I didn’t say any such thing, nor did I imply it.
If people want to buy apple shit that’s their problem. I’ll be over here mocking them for buying something for a stupid amount of money that works no better than a Windows PC or Linux.
You don’t need to interpret what I said at all. It’s exactly as it says, there’s no 3rd party comments hidden inside my posts.
“You don’t need to interpret what I said at all. It’s exactly as it says, there’s no 3rd party comments hidden inside my posts.”
Everything is interpreted. You maybe have an intended meaning you wish to convey when you say something, but that won’t necessary be the way people will take it.
This is why there is “lawyer speak” which interpretation is locked down by decades (if not centuries) of legal precedence – and even then …
Don’t be stupid.
“Don’t be stupid.”
LOL.
Yeah, too late.
Just download the MP3 or something and move on. Don’t cause an issue here please.
I did – along with the FLAC one should some day I decide that I want a “pure” version.
Just floating the idea out there that ALAC might be a better format to use for the lossless one.
Heck might as well just distribute it as a wave in a zip file. Hey it’s perfectly compatible every OS and player. It’s not as if harddrive space is hard to come by these days. But I digress.
Apart from we disagree, ALAC isn’t a better format.
I’m arguing from a convenience perspective, IMHO ALAC is more convenient. Technically I don’t know, but I doubt a few percentage points difference in compression efficient will matter much.
I can’t encode in ALAC anyway, would mean me having to download an untrusted 3rd party app to do the encoding.
@Ixlone
Open source ALAC encoders are out there. Don’t tell me you don’t have the technical skill to use them since you handle h.264 encoding and subtitle authoring just fine.
Yeah, but they probably aren’t safe. Makes my tinfoil hate tingle just thinking about it.
@Ixlone
You tinfoil hat is rather “selective” since it doesn’t tingle when it come to your “compile but some random guy on the internet” H.264 encoding tool. O_o
Let’s just cut through the crap.
You can play FLAC files in iTunes for mac if you use Fluke http://code.google.com/p/flukeformac/ . Granted, it’s not a very nice solution, but it sorta works.
Or what I used to use, Cog for mac http://cogx.org/ . Playes FLAC and many other files natively.
Although there are open source ALAC encoders for windows, it’s not exactly convenient to use, imo.
PS: I an ex-mac user, running windows now, so I do know a few softwarez for mac.
PS: It’s only an issue because of the ways some of the people here are reacting. All I did was brought up the possibility of using an alternative format that I believe is more convenient for the majority of people out there.
>a stupid alternative format
I fixed that for ya
you know what is convenient? keep stuff as they are now >:D
Not, I believe, for the majority of people which is why I brought it up. 🙂
@depressed
So open source programs to encode alac is fine, but open source programs to play flac are not? You’re the one with double standards here.
Or are you implying people should cater to your wishes because you’re paranoid, but you don’t mind if others have to do things you don’t want to do?
Seeing how you’re the only one complaining about them, I doubt the majority of people holds a lot of value when coming from you.
More convenient?
How is that?
I have a copy of my Library in ALAC, because I wanted lossless music on my iPhone.
Then I switched to a Samsung Galaxy S3. Guess what my entire collection is now useless. Android music players support FLAC. Apple doesn’t support shit. I can play a 10-bit 720p MKV on my Galaxy S3 after directly downloading to it or torrent ON MY PHONE. Guess what apple can do. Nothing.
Funny thing VLC tried to port a good media player to the iOS platform, it was removed from the App Store because Open Source license and Apple Store Licence don’t agree.
Paranoid about open source programs?
Do you know how much data Apple receives from your Mac?
Try installing some firewall software not made by apple and find out.
I already know and block half their crap.
The more popular a open source program is, the more likely someone has gone through the source code (while forking it or something) and made sure it isn’t collecting some stupid information from your computer.
Safety on Macs?
That comment you made about “This program was downloaded from an unreliable source…”, you get those in windows as well. They are called Run dialogs and not many people read them.
Also if you have noticed, since OS X 10.7 there have been more anti virus software showing up for the OS X, while back like 5 years ago there were none. Do you know why? It cause their fucking apple app store sucks and is easy to hack. And guess what 10.8 is like porting iOS onto a computer. I don’t need a dumb OS that kills my background programs every 10 mins on my computer.
Majority of people?
Not the whole fucking world uses iTunes. iTunes is possible the worst music player as it is not easy to import a library in an organized way and there is no way to export it.
I have organized my entire library by hand and abusing the collections feature in it.
When my computer crashed, I loaded my music onto another computer and lost most of the organization.
You want something universal, go mp3. It is supported both on old devices and new ones and there isn’t any license requirement.
BTW Why don’t you stick to buying your shitty music from the iTunes store, it will give you a lovely 256 kbit/sec AAC with DRM protection on it. Isn’t that considered high quality from your trusted source?
Anything else I need to address for you knowledge?
There are also software to convert FLAC to ALAC on mac, I used to use Max http://sbooth.org/Max/ which is a bit outdated. I also herd ‘X lossless decoder’ might be able to do it.
“To convert FLAC, I need 3rd-party software which I already mentioned I’m not particular fond of risking my computer over.”
If you want us to provide ALAC we would have to obtain a 3rd-party software too, we’re not gonna risk Doki’s servers just for a few people who want it and is less supported than FLAC.
Wave is more widely supported than either ALAC or FLAC, so why not suggest that?
Thanks! 😀
It seems, FLAC archive does not contain scans. MP3 archive is OK 🙂
Whoops… Added a link to download!
Thankyou for this 🙂
was just thinking that if you watch the 720p you would most likely have a player that can play .flac (VLC or Klite both play it)
/posting in epic thread
But no, seriously, if you are telling me that ALAC is better than FLAC, have some statistics to back yourself up. Encode something in ALAC and FLAC, if it is smaller in ALAC, then you have something to back up your point.
But no, in any case, we are sticking with FLAC, because I said so. End of argument.
Well said Holo.
The Boss has spoken. FLAC stays 🙂
Whining about FLAC?
Convert it to .WAV
???
Profit
Wow, what the hell is with this huge and long discussion consisting of one dude arguing with everyone else, and still not realizing he’s wrong, or letting it go? Jesus…Anyway, thanks for the album! I didn’t even know this one excisted! : D
There be a lot of whiny paranoid trolling going on in here… I’ve lost more personal information and been hacked a lot more from “trusted” corporations than I ever have by “some random dude on the internet” who’s handing out free open source software, which usually runs better than the bloatware you get from MS and Apple.
I don’t even use FLAC, and I’d still rather use that than this ALAC garbage.
Would have loved to see like 50 comments from 50 different users all going: WTF is ALAC??? ┐(￣ー￣)┌
WTF is ALAC???
See?
(¬‿¬)
Not to mention I dont think any fansub group has ever used it, at least I don’t remember seeing anyone doing so.
Btw I had the same thought, no idea what ALAC was until I googled after looking at some of these comments.
Same here. Never heard of it until I read this thread. ┐(￣ー￣)┌
Because it’s a crap format.
ALAC = Ashitty Losseless Audio Codec
Used on nothing but itunes.
If you use itunes go buy your anime on there as well. No point of watching fansubs.
fyi, in order to post something in ALAC, someone here will need to use those “unsafe” third-party software to encode it from FLAC, which is just the same as YOU fucking encoding it instead. so just download that FLAC version and encode it yourself
oops, my bad, Himie already mentioned stuff
Please seed. Download speed is 0 (zero) because there’re peers. 🙁
I mean there are NO peers. 🙁