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And another Hino Hino one that Ero wanted to do. Yum.

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  • Thise pedo shit is even more disturbing than usual…She looks like a toddler ffs…

    • Suki

      It’s more disturbing to see a 40s years old grumpy who still can’t tell the different between reality and fiction in this day and age. Even worse when he obviously have no idea what the different between pedophile and lolicon. Hmm, sounds exactly like typical male feminist.

      Just another day in this Clown World. Honk Honk!

      • You shouldn’t make so many assumptions and judge me so harshly based on so little information. I’m still in my 30’s, thank you. I do feel old, but I don’t wanna be that old just yet. I’m not that grumpy, people tell me I’m a pretty fun and outgoing person to be around. I am perfectly aware of the difference between reality and fiction. The stupid UK Border Force once tried to arrest me just because I had some 18+ Da Capo artbooks that I bought in Japan, so I know how dumb it is to try and punish someone for something that is harmless. I’m also not even remotely the kind of person you seem to think I am. I play eroge, watch anime, read manga, and collect anime artbooks and figures (my first anime was 16 years ago). Even used to be part of Doki for a little while too. I also currently live in Japan, studying Japanese. I fucking hate dumb modern feminists with a passion, and what they are doing to countries like the US etc, so I strongly resent you calling me one. You seem to think I’m one of those people who thinks content like this should be censored or removed. I sure as hell don’t. People can enjoy what they want as long as it doesn’t harm anyone. So you see, it’s never a good idea to make a ton of assumptions of someone based on very little information. You’ll just inevetably get most of it wrong.

        All of that doesn’t mean I can’t voice what I think of something though. If something is kind of gross and disturbing to me, why shouldn’t I be allowed to say so? Are you against free speech? Now, most importantly, the whole difference between a pedophile and a lolicon thing. First off, strictly speaking, the two terms traditionally mean the same thing, even if otaku these days use it to separate people who like drawings of young girls from people who like young girls, period. I’d just thought I’d throw that out there so you know. Now, secondly, sure, it’s not that I believe that everyone who are attracted to drawings of little children are attracted to real life children. But we can never really know, can we? Unless you can somehow prove that you only like the former, we can’t know. And even if you don’t, the fact is you like drawings of little girls having sex, right? Why is that, do you think? Before you say that they look nothing like real little girls: they look even less like non-underage manga characters, and they look even more less like real life non-underage girls. And at the very least, the fact that you like drawings of little girls having sex at least means you’re more likely to be attracted to the idea of little girls having sex than people who aren’t into such drawings, correct?

        Anyway, teenage manga girls that might be slightly underage makes perfect sense to me, and while I’m not into it myself, preteens, okay, bit creepy, but whatever. But ones that look like toddlers? Yes, to me, that’s kind of disturbing. It’s just a “why would you be attracted to that?” kind of feeling. But of course, to each his own. Just because I find it weird and a little gross, that doesn’t mean I have any kind of personal problem with you for liking that stuff. Your personal attacks on me though…I’m not terribly happy about those. I was commenting on the work, after all, not you.

        • Suki

          “I’m still in my 30’s, thank you.”
          – 30s!? Kinda overweight, chubby neck, thin hair, balding, male feminist-ish face. Hmm, probably because of too much of fast food that contain phthalates or/and too much food like soy that contain estrogen. If not then probably faulty genetic. Clearly a sign of low testosterone. Because white male masculinity is bad! amirite? 😀

          “I’m not that grumpy, people tell me I’m a pretty fun and outgoing person to be around.”
          – Nikola Tesla told me that I’m a pretty fun and outgoing person to be around too. Such a nice guy. 😀 HONK! HONK!

          • Suki

            “All of that doesn’t mean I can’t voice what I think of something though. If something is kind of gross and disturbing to me, why shouldn’t I be allowed to say so?”
            – The same could be said that about why can’t I make assumptions and judge you based on what you said.

            “Are you against free speech?”
            – Said the guy who told me the: “You shouldn’t make so many assumptions and judge me so harshly.” Are you against free speech?

            “the whole difference between a pedophile and a lolicon thing. First off, strictly speaking, the two terms traditionally mean the same thing, even if otaku these days use it to separate people who like drawings of young girls from people who like young girls, period.I’d just thought I’d throw that out there so you know.”
            – See? This right here is a hard evidence that you can’t tell the different. You just PRETENDING to understand the words. Strictly speaking, Lolita complex in Japanese refers to the paraphilia itself, but the abbreviation lolicon can also refer to an individual who has the paraphilia.

            “Now, secondly, sure, it’s not that I believe that everyone who are attracted to drawings of little children are attracted to real life children. But we can never really know, can we?”
            – Grumpy is so funny lol. With that logic. I think you should go back to UK and get inside the jail because we can never really know. Maybe I should ring a phone to all the Europe countries and tell them that you are a pedophile and have CP material like 18+ Da Capo Artbook with you. Grumpy is so funny lol.

            “I strongly resent you calling me one. You seem to think I’m one of those people who thinks content like this should be censored or removed. I sure as hell don’t.”
            – Said the guy who implying anyone who read loli porn that you DON’T LIKE are pedophile.

            “Unless you can somehow prove that you only like the former, we can’t know. And even if you don’t, the fact is you like drawings of little girls having sex, right? Why is that, do you think?”
            – Yep, yep, nod, nod. Hello Mr. Police you see there a guy name ___ currently in Japan blah blah blah… if he back to Europe please catch him. We can’t know for sure. He is dangerous. 🙂

            “Before you say that they look nothing like real little girls: they look even less like non-underage manga characters, and they look even more less like real life non-underage girls. And at the very least, the fact that you like drawings of little girls having sex at least means you’re more likely to be attracted to the idea of little girls having sex than people who aren’t into such drawings, correct?”
            – Such retarded logic said by the guy who play eroge. Such high horse, such hypocrite. If you still have balls then stop mingling words and just out with it with: “IF YOU LIKE LOLI PORN (THAT I DON’T LIKE) YOU ARE A PEDOPHILE!!” Oh, you don’t? As expected from a coward cuck from Europe, who welcome genocide in form of sterilize and rapefugees to their own countries. The very same thing that happened to Germany before they forced to declare WW2 against the Jews.
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSgeg3z0ewI

            “Anyway, teenage manga girls that might be slightly underage makes perfect sense to me, and while I’m not into it myself, preteens, okay, bit creepy, but whatever.”
            – Double standards and double talk again, and again. Typical for hypocrites who don’t have any global standards.

            “But ones that look like toddlers? Yes, to me, that’s kind of disturbing.”
            – I’m more disturbing that a 30s balding guy that look like a 40s don’t know the look of a toddler and think the one in this doujin is a toddler. I’m literally shaking right now!

            “It’s just a “why would you be attracted to that?” kind of feeling.”
            – More like: “how dare you to like this pedo shit something I don’t like! I’m gonna project so hard! You pedo!! REEEEEE!”

            “But of course, to each his own. Just because I find it weird and a little gross, that doesn’t mean I have any kind of personal problem with you for liking that stuff.”
            – Double talk again. More like “I pretending to have no problem with you but let me write a long essay with 3 paragraphs while I do that I’m gonna accusing…err I mean implying that you are a pedophile while using double standards and double talk like a true retard.” You should stop PRETENDING to be rational and out with it with: “YOU ARE A FUCKING PEDOPHILE! REEEEE!!” You hypocrite coward cuck 😀 lmao.

            “Your personal attacks on me though…I’m not terribly happy about those. I was commenting on the work, after all, not you.”
            – I was just commenting on your statement and your pictures. Or are you against free speech? Oh, don’t even try to spin any of these as “hate speech” too because it’s not. Even it’s a statement that you don’t like. 😀

            “I fucking hate dumb modern feminists with a passion, and what they are doing to countries like the US etc.”
            – Funny how you acting exactly like modern dumb feminists that you hate.

            “I am perfectly aware of the difference between reality and fiction.”
            – No, grumpy. You are not. Please return to reality.

            “People can enjoy what they want as long as it doesn’t harm anyone.”
            – Yeah, sure, Captain Obvious. Gotta love dat double standards and double talk.

            “You shouldn’t make so many assumptions and judge me so harshly based on so little information.”
            – With all the new infos. Look like I was right all along. Sorry but I have retard detector implant in my brain. You can’t fool me grumpy! >:D HONK! HONK!

          • Are you off your meds, man? Blowing up in my face and bombarding me with personal insults for no reason (which does not fall under free speech btw, don’t try and pretend you don’t know that. It’s vastly different from what I did) just because I commented negatively on something? Did it really piss you off and offend you that much? It’s rather baffling how personal you’re taking it, considering it’s not like I’m trying to prevent anyone from reading it, or have any desire to do so…Or are you just trolling (like all the smilies would suggest)? Why did I waste my time replying to you seriously, ugh…

            And I don’t care if you want to label yourself with a more specific term like lolicon instead of a pedophile just to feel better about yourself, the latter term still encompasses all forms of sexual attractions towards children, including drawings, so they way I used it wasn’t wrong. You’re just being pedantic, or you’re pissed because you can’t handle the truth, or both. I know the difference, I just don’t care to endulge in your delusion.

            Also, I hate the stupid politicians who have flooded my country and other European countries (especially Germany, which you mentioned, and also Sweden) with the “rapefugees” you mentioned just as much as I hate third-wave feminists. You keep acting like just because I come from Europe I automatically need to have the same kind of dumb viewpoints and opinions as the most annoying people from those countries (the US is even worse though, seriously). You know every country in the world is full of people with completely different opinions, values and world outlooks, right? And if you think finding drawings of little children having sex kind of gross automatically makes me a feminist, then you’re nuts.

            Now calm down, quit throwing a tantrum (or trolling. Whichever it is you’re doing) just because I commented negatively on your sacred loli porn, and stop it with the personal attacks and insults. I have no intention of stooping to your level and returning the favour, so if you’re just trying to rile me up, you can forget it.

          • Suki

            “Are you off your meds, man? Blowing up in my face and bombarding me with personal insults for no reason”
            – Said the guy bombarding me with personal insults for 3 long paragraphs. On high horse, double standards, double talk while playing victim. Seriously disgusting.

            “which does not fall under free speech btw, don’t try and pretend you don’t know that.”
            – A 40s looking guy PRETENDING to know the meaning of the word AGAIN. Freedom of speech is a principle that supports the freedom of an individual or a community to articulate their opinions and ideas without fear of retaliation, censorship, or legal sanction. Even if I called you a retard it’s still fall under free speech. Facts don’t care about your feelings.

            “Did it really piss you off and offend you that much?”
            – You really can’t tell? It’s actually pretty fun to poke at retards. Since most of the time they can’t even come up with a decent argument but they sure hate to lose so they ended up open their mouth and leave no doubt. I would say most of the 9 years old Gen Z are by far smarter than this.

            “It’s rather baffling how personal you’re taking it”
            – Said the guy who TRIGGERED when get called out and reply to me with 3 long paragraphs full of bullshit lol.

            “Or are you just trolling (like all the smilies would suggest)?”
            – Fun fact. Did you know retard people can’t tell if other people using smart joke or/and being sarcastic even with obvious signs to tell them about it lol.

            “Why did I waste my time replying to you seriously, ugh…”
            – You seriously have very shitty logic. You should Learn To Code.

            “And I don’t care if you want to label yourself with a more specific term like lolicon instead of a pedophile just to feel better about yourself, the latter term still encompasses all forms of sexual attractions towards children, including drawings, so they way I used it wasn’t wrong.”
            – Apple and Orange are the same thing? Here, some easy examples even retards could understand! Lolicon = paraphilia. Pedophile = an adult who is sexually attracted to REAL LIFE children. Only retards that can’t tell the different between reality and fiction would have problem with very simple logic like this. Facts don’t care about your feelings.

            “You’re just being pedantic, or you’re pissed because you can’t handle the truth, or both. I know the difference, I just don’t care to endulge in your delusion.”
            – More like I’m being a realist and you obviously going full retard. Instead of make up the meaning to suit yourself how about look it up? Every heard of the words “Dictionary” or “Wikipedia”? It’s really baffling me how can an adult that already spend more than half of his life spans from 1st world country can be this retarded.

            “just because I come from Europe I automatically need to have the same kind of dumb viewpoints and opinions as the most annoying people from those countries (the US is even worse though, seriously).
            – All of your comments in here are perfect evidences, you just don’t see it. This is what happened when you don’t use logic but use feeling. Facts don’t care about your feelings.

            “if you think finding drawings of little children having sex kind of gross automatically makes me a feminist, then you’re nuts.”
            – Said the guy admitted that you play eroge that features lolis like Da Capo in 1st paragraph and at 2nd paragraph you think anyone who like loli porn are pedophile. It’s really fit the definition of the word “hypocrite” don’t you think? One of the traits that feminist and retard have in common is they sure love to leak out memoir like this that can be use against themselves because they’re batshit crazy.

            “Now calm down, quit throwing a tantrum (or trolling. Whichever it is you’re doing)”
            – Double talk + playing the victim. You know you should come up with something new instead of using the same thing again and again and expect anyone with a brain cell to buy your bullshit. Do I need to tell you the meaning of “insanity”? Because you starting to fit with its definition.

            “just because I commented negatively on your sacred loli porn, and stop it with the personal attacks and insults.”
            – Said they guy who play Da Capo trying to insults me with the word “pedophile” lmao 😀

            “I have no intention of stooping to your level and returning the favour, so if you’re just trying to rile me up, you can forget it.”
            – If you really think your level is high then I would suggest you to go see a doctor and have him check your brain. Fun fact, if someone IQ lower than 70 they would considered as a retard.

            Ever heard of Action-Reaction? If you talking bullshit on internet don’t get upset when someone called you out on your bullshit.

          • I didn’t bombard you with personal insults though? Literally the only example I can find of me potentially insulting you is the indirect “Are you off your meds, man?” sentence, which was a response to you being completely unhinged and going off the rails attacking me just because I commented negatively on a loli manga (not commenting on you or anyone else at all), which made me go “the fuck? O_o What’s this guy’s problem?”.

            Meanwhile, you have called me a cuck, a retard (several times now), a feminist (yes, I consider that an insult), fat, balding (I still have plenty of hair, thank you), hypocrite, coward, and grumpy (those last three are minor and I don’t care), and saying I look 10 years older than I am (where are you even getting this stuff from, man? Most people mistake me for being younger than I actually am, not the other way around…). Oh, and that I might be insane. Seriously, what’s wrong with you? What’s your problem? You’re being a huge dick for no reason.

            Literally, all I did was say how I think the manga is kind of gross because the girl looks like a toddler, and you proceeded to attack me. I then explained and elaborated my viewpoint and why you were wrong about me, without insulting you back, and then for some reason you REALLY went off the rails, throwing insults at me left and right.

            Is it just because I called it “pedo shit” instead of “lolicon shit”? Is that why you’re acting like I’ve committed a cardinal sin? You’re still being pedantic. I already explained this, but while lolicon specifically refers to people who are attracted to drawings and animations of underage girls, pedophile refers to anyone who’s sexually attracted to underage girls, period, REGARDLESS of whether they’re real or not. It’s less accurate and specific to use in this case, but it’s STILL NOT WRONG. I’m sorry you don’t like that. I mean I didn’t even use the term with the intention of offending anyone by aluding to them being a pedophile or anything. I was literally just commenting on the work. If I apologize for unintentionally offending you with that, will you quit it with your personal vendetta? I’m not expecting an apology from you (fat chance), but if you can lay off, that would be nice. I never expected my comment to cause such a shitstorm.

            A few sidenotes in regards to some of your other comments: The Da Capo characters are 17 years old, so they’re not lolis. If you’re American or British I guess you could try to argue that they are because they’re 1 year under the legal age, but that would be stretching it. And in my country said legal age is 16. It’s around the same in a lot of other European countries too, so. *shrug*

            “Said they guy who play Da Capo trying to insults me with the word “pedophile” lmao ”

            But I WASN’T trying to insult you or anyone else, that’s the thing…You don’t seem to catch up on that very important fact, even though I’ve mentioned it a couple times now…I was originally commenting on the manga only.

            Finally, in response to your rhetorical question to Guest about how Doki can still can operate without interference by law enforcement if they have “CP” on their site: Drawings of underage girls engaging in sexual acts actually literally are illegal in the UK (it’s a retarded law, I know. Like who the fuck cares, they’re just drawings, ugh…so dumb). I’m guessing the reason there are no repercussions is either because law enforcement doesn’t know, or they don’t care (like, why should they). I imagine it’s also pretty tough to convict anyone for something like that, since it would be hard to prove that the characters in question are underage (seriously such a dumb and pointless law).

            To reiterate just so it’s absolutely clear to you:
            1. I had no intention of offending you or anyone else with my initial comment. It seems I did, so apologies for that. It’s pretty minor compared to everything you’ve thrown at me at this point though…
            2. I have no desire to prevent anyone from reading this stuff, or anything else. I’m particularly perplexed how you came to that conclusion (like the “how dare you to like this pedo shit something I don’t like! I’m gonna project so hard! You pedo!! REEEEEE!” part), since nothing in my posts suggests that.
            3. I was literally just commenting on how the manga itself is kind of gross to me, because the girl looks like a toddler. I called it pedo shit because that’s what it is to me. That’s all.

          • Suki

            “I didn’t bombard you with personal insults though?”
            – Oh? Now you pretending what you said in your second comment that you tried to accuse me as a pedophile while using double standards and double talke are never happened now?

            “Meanwhile, you have called me a cuck—and saying I look 10 years older than I am (where are you even getting this stuff from, man? Most people mistake me for being younger than I actually am, not the other way around…)”
            – Are you seriously can’t tell? First, all the insults are directly reflects to your reactions, words and logic. You’re clearly retarded. Second, your picture is your blog. If you don’t believe me that you are looks far older than your age then you should ask someone on 4chan, 8chan, or whatever anonyboard. If you ask someone you know in face to face about how you looks of course they would lies to you. I’m being frank and serious here, do you really believe people would never ever lies to you about how you look? Man, this is so stupid it’s like am teaching a giant toddler how to walk and I’m not even in my 30s.

            “Literally, all I did was say how I think the manga is kind of gross because the girl looks like a toddler”
            – Literally, all I did was point out how you still can’t tell the different between reality and ficiton, peodophile and lolicon, even though you’re that old.

            “you proceeded to attack me”
            – Nope, I’m pointing out your bullshit here. Let’s me guess, in your whole life you never got a punch in the face even once, and you think this is the worst thing happened to you, right? Remind me of some guy on Youtube crying like a schoolgirl after his friend got punched in the face.

            “I then explained and elaborated my viewpoint and why you were wrong about me, without insulting you back”
            – Are you really think I’m that stupid and would never notice how you insulting me and then playing the victim while using double standards and double talk?

            “Is it just because I called it “pedo shit” instead of “lolicon shit”? Is that why you’re acting like I’ve committed a cardinal sin?”
            – Here, timeline: You using the wrong word > I called you out > then you shit on me with 3 paragraphs > I called you out again in every single bullshit you thrown at me > then you shit on me again while playing the victim again > I called you out again > now you playing the victim again > And I calling you out again (Now we’re right here lol.)

            “You’re still being pedantic.”
            – And you’re still being retarded and still believe that you can call an apple as an orange, a cat as a tiger.

            “I already explained this, but while lolicon specifically refers to people who are attracted to drawings and animations of underage girls, pedophile refers to anyone who’s sexually attracted to underage girls, period, REGARDLESS of whether they’re real or not. It’s less accurate and specific to use in this case, but it’s STILL NOT WRONG.”
            – Nope. Not only YOU’RE WRONG but this time you also LYING AND BACKPEDAL. Here what you said: “pedophile still encompasses all forms of sexual attractions towards children, including drawings, so they way I used it wasn’t wrong.” I already post the definition in the “May 4, 2019 at 10:00 PM” just go read that. Or look at the Wiki page.

            “will you quit it with your personal vendetta?”
            – I called you out, you shit on me, and now I’m the bad guy here? How many victim cards you got over there? Lol.

            “I’m not expecting an apology from you (fat chance), but if you can lay off, that would be nice.”
            – Actually that would be my line lol.

            “The Da Capo characters are 17 years old, so they’re not lolis—they’re 1 year under the legal age—my country said legal age is 16.”
            – Here, another perfect evidence that you can’t tell the different between reality and fiction. Whatever the age of the FICTIONAL CHARACTER is. They’re not real, they don’t have HUMAN RIGHTS. Because they’re not HUMAN. They’re pixels, they’re paper and pen, they’re drawing. Or are you saying that 500 years old loli ghost dragon is real and have human rights? Why don’t anyone think of the pixels in video games that got killing over, over, and over again, I wonder?

          • Suki

            “But I WASN’T trying to insult you or anyone else, that’s the thing…You don’t seem to catch up on that very important fact, even though I’ve mentioned it a couple times now…I was originally commenting on the manga only.”
            – In that line I pointed out how much of a HYPOCRITE you are. You are the one that not catch up here. Even though I’ve already mentioned it multiple times and anyone with half a brain cell would realize that I’m being sarcastic.

            “I had no intention of offending you or anyone else with my initial comment. It seems I did, so apologies for that. It’s pretty minor compared to everything you’ve thrown at me at this point though…”
            – So you can shit on me all day but I can’t do the same for some reason? Got it.

            “I’m particularly perplexed how you came to that conclusion (like the “how dare you to like this pedo shit something I don’t like! I’m gonna project so hard! You pedo!! REEEEEE!” part), since nothing in my posts suggests that.”
            – LYING AND BACKPEDAL again? I’m too lazy to dig through all of your bullshit again. Here, this is what you said just only in the first two comments of yours not including the others.
            1) “Thise pedo shit is even more disturbing than usual…She looks like a toddler ffs…”
            2) “Now, secondly, sure, it’s not that I believe that everyone who are attracted to drawings of little children are attracted to real life children. But we can never really know, can we?”
            3) “Unless you can somehow prove that you only like the former, we can’t know. And even if you don’t, the fact is you like drawings of little girls having sex, right? Why is that, do you think?”
            4) “the fact that you like drawings of little girls having sex at least means you’re more likely to be attracted to the idea of little girls having sex than people who aren’t into such drawings, correct?”

            “I was literally just commenting on how the manga itself is kind of gross to me, because the girl looks like a toddler. I called it pedo shit because that’s what it is to me. That’s all.”
            – I was literally just commenting on your picture and your comments. I called you retard because that’s what you are. Here, the definition: 1) A person with a mental deficiency. 2) An offensive term used to refer to someone acting in an irritating or generally stupid way. It’s easy if you don’t want me to call you a retard then you should stop acting like one.

            “Drawings of underage girls engaging in sexual acts actually literally are illegal in the UK—I’m guessing the reason there are no repercussions is either because law enforcement doesn’t know, or they don’t care (like, why should they). I imagine it’s also pretty tough to convict anyone for something like that, since it would be hard to prove that the characters in question are underage (seriously such a dumb and pointless law).”

            – Here, the moment of truth!! You “GUESSING” that police didn’t arrest Doki staffs and by your wording you “BELIEVE” that police “DOESN’T KNOW/DON’T CARE”. You literally based everything on your EMOTIONAL.

            Whatever you believe in your head is not a truth or even a fact. A fact is a thing that is known to be consistent with objective reality and can be proven to be true with evidence. Even you BELIEVE that you can fly and jump off a cliff doesn’t mean you can fly and there’s nothing to stop GRAVITY from pulling you to the ground. Facts don’t care about your feelings.

            Since I can’t post full link, open this link: “voat.co/v/news/3196988” Read the news about the PizzaGate, and then look at all the images post by the top comment named “HRCisDONE” and tell me how the police go through all that multi layers of shit to catch 82 people but somehow they leave Doki alone for more than a decade for some reason? Here, another hint: look up the word “FICTIONAL” in dictionary.

            At this point I’m more than convinced that I was right about you being retarded and I’m being totally serious here. You should go see a psychologist or a neurologist and have them check on your physically and mentally. Most of retarded person don’t even realize that they’re retard. This part is no joke, no sarcasm.

          • You mean the second post where I literally say that while I personally don’t care for it, I don’t have a problem with you or anyone else who likes this stuff? Because in that case I wonder what you’re talking about. Rather than the second, are you perhaps talking about the third post, and this part:

            “And I don’t care if you want to label yourself with a more specific term like lolicon instead of a pedophile just to feel better about yourself, the latter term still encompasses all forms of sexual attractions towards children, including drawings, so they way I used it wasn’t wrong. You’re just being pedantic, or you’re pissed because you can’t handle the truth, or both. I know the difference, I just don’t care to endulge in your delusion.”?

            You know that’s me explaining how “pedophile”, while innaccurate, is not technically a wrong term to use instead of “lolicon”, right? And then me explaining that I don’t really care if it’s important to you to separate the two terms. That’s not the same as me trying to insult you. And we’ve been over this a couple times now. You can check a dictionary if you like, it doesn’t say anywhere that the sexual attraction to underage girls that the term “pedophile” refers to does NOT INCLUDE fictional girls/drawings. So again, it’s not as specific as “lolicon”, but it’s not wrong. It also has nothing to do with me not being able to tell reality from fiction, what are you on about? I can tell the difference just fine. That’s not what this is about. This is about how you use the two words. Not separating the two terms as adamantly as you do is not the same as me not understanding the difference between fiction (drawings for example, like this loli manga) and reality (actual real life kids). I also am perfectly aware that “lolicon” specifically refers to the attraction to the fictional kind. It’s just that you seem adamant that the term “pedophile” refers only to the attraction to real life children, while I maintain that the term makes no such distinction, and refers to the attraction to underage girls, whether real or not. Please don’t try to spin that into me not being able to tell the difference between a drawing and a real kid. That’s just dumb.

            It seems to me this whole things started because you felt personally offended when I refered to this manga as “pedoshit” in my first comment. Why is it so hard for you to understand that me refering to a loli manga as pedoshit is not the same as me accusing you of being a pedophile? You proceeded to personally attack me and insult me three times in your first post (that I’m a 40s years old grumpy, that I’m a feminist, and indirectly that I’m a clown). When I, instead of attacking you back, calmly explained your misconception, and that I don’t have a problem with you, you just proceeded to viciously attack me further. I have been trying to diffuse the situation ever since, but it doesn’t seem like I’m getting through to you, or maybe I am, but you just won’t let it go because you were too offended, I dunno. I even apologized, and you still won’t let it go, or even quit insulting me. So much hate. Which reminds me, since this whole thing started because you chose to be offended by something that was neither offensive nor an insult to begin with, the way you keep calling me a hypocrite and talking about, as you put it, “muh feelings” etc is pretty rich.

            Also, if I was retarded, I wouldn’t be where I am today. I wouldn’t have a degree. Probably wouldn’t be able to respond to you in mostly grammatically correct English without tons of mistakes and typos either, especially considering English isn’t my first language. Joke’s on you.

            The age thing: Who said I don’t think people ever lie to me? Who said anything about me only asking people I know? You’re making (wrong) assumptions again (done that quite a lot at this point, haven’t you?). There have been tons of cases in my life of people I’ve only just met mistaking me for being younger than I am, and then being very surprised to find out the truth, when the subject comes up. I’m not saying there aren’t other people in the world aside from you that would think I am older instead, but rather than your assumption being the norm, and the opposite being more rare, maybe you’re actually in the rare camp, and more people are actually likely to think I’m younger than the opposite? If you don’t want to believe that, that’s fine. I don’t think people never lie to me, but with the amount of times it has happened; because there are so many people that have said it, and because many of them were when I first met them, I feel safely confident that you’re wrong.

            Never been punched: I’ve been in two real fights in my life. I won both. I’m not really a troublemaker though, and I’m a pretty nice guy, so I tend not to get into too much trouble. I’ve certainly seen my share of people insulting me or others on the internet in my life though, you’re certainly not the first in that regard, if that’s what you think.

            Your timeline is wrong. I didn’t use the wrong term, but even if I did, if it was just you calling me out on it, then there would be no problem. I would have no problem. But the fact is that you insulted me three times in your very first post, which was totally uncalled for, since I had done nothing to you. And then even my response to that doesn’t insult you at all. It’s only in my third post that I somewhat start to retaliate. Yet you keep trying to make it sound like I’m the one who attacked you first, even though that’s clearly not the case. You “shit” on me first. I’m not the pot calling the kettle black here, you are. What was that about double standards?

            I fail to see how I’m backpedaling, the two quotes you made from me both say the same thing:

            “pedophile refers to anyone who’s sexually attracted to underage girls, period, REGARDLESS of whether they’re real or not.”

            “pedophile still encompasses all forms of sexual attractions towards children, including drawings, so they way I used it wasn’t wrong.”

            There’s no conflict between these two statements. The only difference between the two quotes from me that you posted is that the first part also has the part that I didn’t include which has me mention the definition for “lolicon”. As for the Wiki page, it’s literally like I said. It does not say anywhere that the term does not include attraction to fictional underage girls. It just says that it means to be attracted to underage girls. It’s not my damn fault that the term isn’t more specific.

            And obviously I agree with you that fictional characters have no actual age and human rights, I’m not that delusional. I was just stating the age they have according to the author/their visual novel database profiles. It was just a response to you mentioning me liking lolis from Da Capo, and that I’m a hypocrite as a result. I was just explaining how they’re not actually considered lolis. No need to be deliberately obtuse.

            Also, what’s your problem when it comes to my comment about why Doki isn’t in trouble with the police? You said to Guest:

            “If there is “CP” on Doki website then I ask you why Doki still can operate with out interference of law enforcement? But from the look of it I’m sure you can’t answer me that. Do I need to mentions that CP is “illegal” in most countries on this planet?”

            I then just offered my take on a possible reason why that might be so. Nowhere did I claim it was a fact, that’s just an unfair accusation, man. Since you also seemed to insinuate that while CP is illegal, loli porn is not, I also included some information about how the UK actually has a law that explicitly and specifically targets drawings of perceived underage characters engaged in sexual acts (this is a fact. It’s why they tried to arrest me over the Da Capo art books in the first place. But they let me go because they decided it would be hard to tell if the characters are actually underage or not). It was good natured, and I was being informative. I have no idea why you choose to be mean even over something like that. Also, there are real victims of this law, and actual arrests, I read about several cases in the aftermath of my experince, so please don’t try to make it sound like loli porn is a non issue with no risk in the UK (or maybe you actually believed up until now that it really doesn’t carry any risk, I dunno. In that case at least now you know better). I really really wish it was, but it really isn’t. That’s an honest truth.

            Now I trust at this point that you should be able to see, at least a little, that I had no bad intentions, and that you were blowing things out of proportion? Also, maybe (I hope) you can now see how you actually offended me first rather than the other way around? Unless you count my very first post, which wasn’t even directed at anyone, as an insult, in which case it wasn’t an insult, but if you felt offended by that, I already apologized. I’m not going to apologize for slightly responding to your numerous direct attacks towards me as well though. If you still can’t see any of that, and if you’re still going to insist on being mean, then I dunno, whatever…I am growing a bit bored of this back and forth though…How much longer do you wanna do this? :-/ I’m ready to quit anytime, if you will just admit that the fault isn’t entirely mine, and apologize for the numerous insults. Heck, I might even be satisfied if you could just manage to write one post where you aren’t being mean and attacking me. I mean even when I’m just explaining and responding politely in my previous comment, you still keep up the personal attacks. :-/ I don’t know why you gotta be like that. Why so much hate? I’ve been trying to apologize and diffuse the situation for a while now, and then move on, but you’re showing zero motivation to try and do the same.

          • Suki

            “You can check a dictionary if you like, it doesn’t say anywhere that the sexual attraction to underage girls that the term “pedophile” refers to does NOT INCLUDE fictional girls/drawings.”
            – I already copy the definition of the words both from Wikipedia and from Dictionary and posted at @Guest. You clearly made all of that up yourself. Sorry but I’m not a retard.

            “It also has nothing to do with me not being able to tell reality from fiction, what are you on about? I can tell the difference just fine.”
            – You clearly can’t tell. There’re already like 5-6 times that what you said indicated that and I already pointed it all out.

            “It’s just that you seem adamant that the term “pedophile” refers only to the attraction to real life children”
            – See? You clearly never look at the Wikipedia or Dictionary and make things up yourself.

            “Please don’t try to spin that into me not being able to tell the difference between a drawing and a real kid. That’s just dumb.”
            – I’m quote exactly what you said and pointed out exactly what is wrong with your logic and even post the definition of the words. And you still accusing for spin your words? You sure love the victim cards don’t you.

            “It seems to me this whole things started because you felt personally offended when I refered to this manga as “pedoshit” in my first comment.”
            – Nope. It’s because used the wrong word, then I pointed out, and then you go full retard on me. You can go back and read all that if you don’t believe me.

            “Why is it so hard for you to understand that me refering to a loli manga as pedoshit”
            – Victim card. Why is it so hard for you to understand that the meaning of the words are not the same. Is it that hard to look it all up?

            “is not the same as me accusing you of being a pedophile?”
            – You actually accused me of being one though. I quoted what you said like 4-5 times now.

            “You proceeded to personally attack me and insult me three times in your first post (that I’m a 40s years old grumpy, that I’m a feminist,).
            – Victim card again? How dare me for pointed your bullshit! amiright?

            “and indirectly that I’m a clown”
            – LOL! You clearly retarded if you think “Clown World” is me insult you as a clown. Look it up.

            “When I, instead of attacking you back, calmly explained your misconception, and that I don’t have a problem with you, you just proceeded to viciously attack me further.”
            – Victim card again? More like calmly shit on me for 3 paragraphs while insulted me as a pedophile multiple times.

            “I have been trying to diffuse the situation ever since”
            – You actually made it worse by shit on me even more with double standards, double talk, playing the victim, backpedal, lying, made thing up, etc. I actually surprised that you retardation actually this bad.

            “but you just won’t let it go because you were too offended”
            – Victim card. You’re the one that too offened by me pointed your bullshit out.

            “I dunno. I even apologized, and you still won’t let it go”
            – You mean this? “If I apologize for unintentionally offending you with that, will you quit it with your personal vendetta?” This is obviously a QUESTION.

            “quit insulting me. So much hate.”
            – Like I said If you don’t want me calling you a retard then stop acting like one. Is it that hard?

          • Suki

            “this whole thing started because you”
            – Victim card. You might not realize but you are the first person who post on this page, not me.

            “chose to be offended by something that was neither offensive nor an insult to begin with”
            – Pedophile IS offensive term. Look it up on Dictionary.

            “the way you keep calling me a hypocrite and talking about, as you put it, “muh feelings” etc is pretty rich.”
            – Victim card again. I quote your exact words that you said and pointed it all out. If you think I was wrong then why don’t do the same by quote what I said and response directly to it? What I see right now is you just putting out more bullshit that not even one of them is a direct response to the part that I quote and most of them are playing the victim.

            “Also, if I was retarded, I wouldn’t be where I am today. I wouldn’t have a degree.”
            – You’re delusional if you think retarded person can’t have a degree nowadays. Like a useless degree like gender studies. I’m 100% sure that the degree you have not the one that need to use logic like engineering, programming, aerodynamic, etc.

            “especially considering English isn’t my first language. Joke’s on you.”
            – Actually English is not my first launguage either. Joke’s on you.

            “The age thing: Who said I don’t think people ever lie to me? Who said anything about me only asking people I know? You’re making (wrong) assumptions again (done that quite a lot at this point, haven’t you?)”
            – How am I wrong if you don’t have any evidence to back up your words?

            “I’ve only just met mistaking me for being younger than I am–snip–make-up-story—If you don’t want to believe that, that’s fine.—your assumption being the norm, and the opposite being more rare, maybe you’re actually in the rare camp—I feel safely confident that you’re wrong.”
            – LOL! “You’re wrong, no you’re not wrong but in rare camp, but you’re wrong!” Oxymoron is so strong in this one. How about some evidence here if you’re that confident? Like made a topic ask people on 8chan by post your picture and ask people there if you look older than 30? I’m sure you not gonna do it lol.

            “I’ve been in two real fights in my life. I won both.—I’m a pretty nice guy—.”
            – Evidence or it never happened. Oh, you don’t have one? Too bad.

            “I didn’t use the wrong term,”
            – Yes you did. Look it up on Wikipedia and Dictionary.

            “Your timeline is wrong.”
            – Nope the timeline is right. You just can’t admit it that you are wrong.

            “But the fact is that you insulted me three times in your very first post, which was totally uncalled for”
            – Victim card. I’m not even insult you in that post. I’m pointed out that you can’t tell the differnts. You’re the one that took it personally as insults.

            “And then even my response to that doesn’t insult you at all.”
            – Victim card. Yes you did. Go back and read the previous post before this one 3 of them are in your second post.

            “It’s only in my third post that I somewhat start to retaliate. Yet you keep trying to make it sound like I’m the one who attacked you first”
            – Victim card. Nah, you directly insulted me since the second post of yours.

            “even though that’s clearly not the case. You “shit” on me first.
            – Victim card. Then point it out exactly how my first post shit on you? Any one with a brain cell could do that.

            “What was that about double standards?”
            – Said the guy who claim to have a degree but don’t know what double standards is lol.

          • Suki

            “I fail to see how I’m backpedaling, the two quotes you made from me both say the same thing”
            – Yes, you’re lying and backpedaling. The first one you said pedophile = children and drawing. The second one you said pedophile = children, and lolicon = drawing. I quoted both of them go back read it.

            “There’s no conflict between these two statements.”
            – Only retards can’t tell the different.

            “As for the Wiki page, it’s literally like I said. It does not say anywhere that the term does not include attraction to fictional underage girls. It just says that it means to be attracted to underage girls. It’s not my damn fault that the term isn’t more specific.”
            – Yes, it does. You just being retard and can’t read. Here: “Strictly speaking, Lolita complex in Japanese refers to the paraphilia itself.” How about stop putting the blame on Wikipedia? It’s your own damn fault for being this retarded.

            “And obviously I agree with you that fictional characters have no actual age and human rights, I’m not that delusional.—snip ton of excuses—”
            – The very fact that you mention about age of fictional character itself is the perfect evidence that you’re delusional. Pathetic. How about stop being a retard and making excuses?

            “I then just offered my take on a possible reason why that might be so. Nowhere did I claim it was a fact, that’s just an unfair accusation, man.”
            – Victim card again. How is it unfair? You said it yourself. Stop being a retard and making excuses. It’s pathetic.

            “UK actually has a law that explicitly and specifically targets drawings of perceived underage characters engaged in sexual acts”
            – What do you expect from a shithole country that protecting rapefugees by arrest people who mentions about it on Facebook? It’s common knowledge that UK been doing bidding for (((UN))) for Global Population Agenda for a few decades now.

            “there are real victims of this law, and actual arrests, I read about several cases in the aftermath of my experince, so please don’t try to make it sound like loli porn is a non issue with no risk in the UK (or maybe you actually believed up until now that it really doesn’t carry any risk, I dunno. In that case at least now you know better). I really really wish it was, but it really isn’t. That’s an honest truth.”
            – Evidence or it never happened. A truth in your head not count as a fact. As for my evidence, search this on DuckDuckGo: “LOLI, ANIME IMAGES DON’T LEAD TO SEXUAL ASSAULT AGAINST REAL CHILDREN, SAYS DANISH REPORT”

            “Now I trust at this point that you should be able to see, at least a little, that I had no bad intentions, and that you were blowing things out of proportion?”
            – At this point I still think you’re a retard. Plus full of shit.

            “I am growing a bit bored of this back and forth though…How much longer do you wanna do this?”
            – We should go all the way until you have no victim card left LMAO 😀

            “if you will just admit that the fault isn’t entirely mine, and apologize for the numerous insults.”
            – That’s sounds so stupid. Why should I apologize to you when everything I said is the truth backed up with evidences and logic?

            “Heck, I might even be satisfied if you could just manage to write one post where you aren’t being mean and attacking me.”
            – You obviously never get a good beating before in your life if some words from an random anon can hurt you this much.

            “I mean even when I’m just explaining and responding politely in my previous comment, you still keep up the personal attacks.”
            – Politely? Victim card. Said the guy who playing victim, double talk, double standards, lying, backpedaling, insulting, blaming, making excuses, make things up, etc.

            “I don’t know why you gotta be like that. Why so much hate?”
            – Victim card. I should be the one to ask how can you be this retarded. I would expect this end long time ago if you didn’t be like this.

            “I’ve been trying to apologize and diffuse the situation for a while now, and then move on, but you’re showing zero motivation to try and do the same.”
            – Victim card. How is that consider as trying? How about stop playing victim, double talk, double standards, lying, backpedaling, insulting, blaming, making excuses, make things up, etc, first?

          • Crap, messed up my bold formatting in my last post. Ah well.

          • Seems my last comment didn’t make it through because I included links, so reposting:

            Nobody’s calling you a retard, calling people retards is your stick, because you’re a mean bastard. But the definitions you copied to Guest’s post are for “lolicon” and “child pornography”. Neither of them are for “pedophile” or “pedophilia”, which is the term we have been discussing. Christ man, stop talking out of your ass. And no one is trying to claim that being a pedophile is synonymous with being a child molester, or that reading loli porn is likely to make you want to molest real children (the people who think that are the same dumb people who think videogames will make you a murderer. They’re idiots). The only thing I have been discussing is whether or not the term “pedophile” refers to people that are attracted to real life children only, or if it refers to people who are attracted to children in general, whether real or not. You believe the former, I believe the latter. You know what, here, a copy-paste of the Wikipedia definition for “pedophilia”, the actual word we have been discussing, instead of the other two words you posted the definitions for:

            “Pedophilia (alternatively spelt paedophilia) is a psychiatric disorder in which an adult or older adolescent experiences a primary or exclusive sexual attraction to prepubescent children.”

            See? Nowhere does it say that said prebuscent children have to be real children. Even if I copied the entire article you won’t find any such words.

            “You clearly can’t tell. There’re already like 5-6 times that what you said indicated that and I already pointed it all out. I’m quote exactly what you said and pointed out exactly what is wrong with your logic and even post the definition of the words. And you still accusing for spin your words? You sure love the victim cards don’t you.”

            Absolute bullshit. You’re just trying to spin my not separating the terms “lolicon” and “pedophile” from each other the way you do to being synonymous with me not being able to tell the difference between a drawing and a real life kid, which is horseshit. That’s unrelated, and you know it. I can tell the difference just fine, I mean the only way anyone wouldn’t be able to tell the difference is if they are blind or don’t have eyes. What we’re discussing here is the use of the word “pedophile” and its definition.

            “Nope. It’s because used the wrong word, then I pointed out, and then you go full retard on me. You can go back and read all that if you don’t believe me.”

            Oh yeah? Do you always “point things out” by insulting people multiple times in one post when you want to correct them on what you perceive as a mistake on their part? Don’t act like you’re not the one who started this, man. If all you had done was to simply object to my use of the word, we wouldn’t be having this discussion. I might not have agreed with you on what is the correct use, but I wouldn’t have argued. I’d probably just have said “difference in opinion/perception”, and moved on. This argument started because you decided you just had to be a dick about it.

            So the very few instances of me insulting you are not okay, but when you bombard me with tons more insults, and insult me first, no less, it’s just you calling me out on bullshit, and it’s fine, and when I point this out, I’m just playing the victiom card? Hypocrisy much, man?

            “You mean this? ‘If I apologize for unintentionally offending you with that, will you quit it with your personal vendetta?’ This is obviously a QUESTION.”

            I also said: “I had no intention of offending you or anyone else with my initial comment. It seems I did, so apologies for that.” at the end of the very same post. But I guess you missed that. Maybe you missed it on purpose. I wouldn’t put it past you at this point…

            “‘this whole thing started because you’
            Victim card. You might not realize but you are the first person who post on this page, not me.”

            Except said first post wasn’t directed at you or anyone else, and wasn’t calling anyone anything. I was commenting on the manga. I don’t know why that’s so hard for you to understand, I thought it was obvious. I wasn’t insulting you or anyone else with that post. You somehow choosing to be offended by that is on you. The argument started when you proceeded to insult me in your first post right after that. In other words, you started this, not me. There are tons of ways you could have politely mentioned that you don’t agree with my use of the word “pedophile”, and that I should have used “lolicon” instead, without attacking me while doing so. Had you done that, I probably would have just said that I respect your opinion, but I only somewhat agree, and then moved on. The argument would have never happened. Think about that for a second. Think about all the time you’ve spent on writing all these posts, that could have been avoided, if you had just chosen not to be mean about it.

            “Pedophile IS offensive term. Look it up on Dictionary.”
            But I DIDN’T call you a pedophile! Christ, why is this so hard for you to understand? It’s mind boggling. For the last time, I was commenting on the manga. Not you. I didn’t insult you. How is me refering to a manga as “pedoshit” the same as me calling you a pedophile? Come on now. It’s not my fault you chose to be offended by something not even directed at you or anyone else. And anyway, if that’s what pissed you off in the first place, as I previously mentioned that I suspected, well then I already apologized for that, didn’t I? Jesus…

            “Victim card again. I quote your exact words that you said and pointed it all out. If you think I was wrong then why don’t do the same by quote what I said and response directly to it? What I see right now is you just putting out more bullshit that not even one of them is a direct response to the part that I quote and most of them are playing the victim.”

            Like I already said, the fact that you mock me (“muh feelings”) for not exactly being thrilled with all your personal attacks, makes you a hypocrite considering you chose to be offended by my initial post, which was never a personal attack directed at you or anyone else to begin with. Also, reiterating this part from above:

            “So the very few instances of me insulting you are not okay, but when you bombard me with tons more insults, and insult me first, no less, it’s just you calling me out on bullshit, and it’s fine, and when I point this out, I’m just playing the victiom card? Hypocrisy much, man?”

            “‘especially considering English isn’t my first language. Joke’s on you.’
            Actually English is not my first launguage either. Joke’s on you.”

            My point was that if I was retarded, my English would surely be way worse, and I wouldn’t be able to write a coherent conversation like this, especially since English isn’t my first language. Whether English is your first language or not has no bearing on that point, so I don’t know why you’re even mentioning it. Joke’s still on you (for calling me retarded to begin with, when I clearly can’t be).

            “How am I wrong if you don’t have any evidence to back up your words?”

            Oh that’s real rich. So I have to provide physical evidence for everything I say now, otherwise it’s a lie? Lol, please. In that case, right back at you. You’re the one making random assumptions and accusations at me, but I have to prove that you’re wrong, while you can just say whatever you want? Get the fuck outta here. And your constant accusations of me lying whenever your constant dumb assumptions of me don’t match up with reality is pretty pathetic to begin with.

            “LOL! ‘You’re wrong, no you’re not wrong but in rare camp, but you’re wrong!’ Oxymoron is so strong in this one.”

            It’s: “You’re wrong about your assumptions about me -> Maybe your perception of how old I look is the exception rather than the rule? -> I feel confident that you’re wrong when it comes to how old I look”. This is not a case of my writing not being up to task, but a case of your reading comprehension not being up to task. Maybe my English is just better than yours?

            “‘But the fact is that you insulted me three times in your very first post, which was totally uncalled for’
            Victim card. I’m not even insult you in that post. I’m pointed out that you can’t tell the differnts. You’re the one that took it personally as insults.”

            Hmm, why does this sound so familiar? Oh, I know, maybe it’s because it’s the exact same thing you did when you chose to be offended by my first post, which was never an insult to begin with! Again, you love to accuse me of hypocrisy and double standards, but you see? You’re just as guilty yourself. And are you really going to claim that directly calling me a “40’s year old grumpy” is not an insult? Please. It’s completely different from my post, which wasn’t even addressing you or anyone else, but was just commenting on the manga.

            “‘even though that’s clearly not the case. You ‘shit’ on me first.’
            Victim card. Then point it out exactly how my first post shit on you? Any one with a brain cell could do that.”

            Sure, that’s easy: “It’s more disturbing to see a 40s years old grumpy”. Direct insult, calling me a 40s old grumpy. “Hmm, sounds exactly like typical male feminist”. Implying I’m a feminist; Another insult. I’ll admit I was mistaken on the “clown” part, I had not heard of the “clown world” meme before. You should be able to see why I could make that mistake though. Unless you think everyone should be aware of that meme, though I don’t know why you would.

            “‘What was that about double standards?’
            Said the guy who claim to have a degree but don’t know what double standards is lol.”

            I know exactly what it means. I’d link the wikipedia article, but my comment didn’t get through when I did, so.
            Why do you think I don’t? You act like it’s okay for you to have been insulted by my initial post, which was not even an insult directed at you or anyone else to begin with, but when I point out how you insulted me first, directly at that, I’m just “playing the victim card” (scroll 4-5 paragraphs up for my quote and response in relation to that). Why should the unwritten rules for what is okay be different for me than for you? Double standards.

            “‘I fail to see how I’m backpedaling, the two quotes you made from me both say the same thing’
            Yes, you’re lying and backpedaling. The first one you said pedophile = children and drawing. The second one you said pedophile = children, and lolicon = drawing. I quoted both of them go back read it.”

            Nope. I can only assume this is you failing at reading comprehension again, because to me it’s absolutely crystal clear that both say the same thing. Here, both quotes from me again, taken directly from your own post, just to be sure:

            “I already explained this, but while lolicon specifically refers to people who are attracted to drawings and animations of underage girls, pedophile refers to anyone who’s sexually attracted to underage girls, period, REGARDLESS of whether they’re real or not. It’s less accurate and specific to use in this case, but it’s STILL NOT WRONG.”

            This one says that lolicon refers to the attraction to drawings and animations of underage girls only, while pedophile refers to the attraction to underage girls, both real and unreal.

            “pedophile still encompasses all forms of sexual attractions towards children, including drawings, so they way I used it wasn’t wrong.”

            This one says that pedophile refers to the attraction to underage girls, both real and drawn. There’s zero contradiction here. Both quotes explain what pedophile refers to, with both definitions being the same, and the first quote also explains what lolicon means, while the second doesn’t mention what lolicon means. A contradiction would have been if the second quote also included the definition for lolicon, but with the two definitions being different in each quote.

            “Yes, it does. You just being retard and can’t read. Here: ‘Strictly speaking, Lolita complex in Japanese refers to the paraphilia itself.’ How about stop putting the blame on Wikipedia? It’s your own damn fault for being this retarded.”

            Wait, why are you quoting the wikipedia article for “lolicon”, when what we’re talking about is “pedophilia”, a separate article and term? Especially considering you have been trying to argue that you can’t use the latter term in place of the former, it makes no sense for you to quote the article for the former when discussing the latter. :-/ Your quote only exists in the article about lolicons. The one for pedophilia does not have it, obviously.

            “The very fact that you mention about age of fictional character itself is the perfect evidence that you’re delusional. Pathetic. How about stop being a retard and making excuses?”

            Like I already said, it was just a response to you mentioning me liking lolis from Da Capo, and that I’m a hypocrite as a result. I was just explaining how they’re not actually considered lolis. It’s not an excuse, and I’m not delusional. You’re just being a dick as always.

            “Victim card again. How is it unfair? You said it yourself. Stop being a retard and making excuses. It’s pathetic.”

            Like I said, I offered a possible answer to your question. I did not say anywhere that it was facts. I then included some information about the UK law on the subject. If you can’t see that then you either can’t read, or you’re the one that’s a retard. I have no idea why you would react that way to a simple good natured post like that, man. You have serious issues.

            “What do you expect from a shithole country that protecting rapefugees by arrest people who mentions about it on Facebook? It’s common knowledge that UK been doing bidding for (((UN))) for Global Population Agenda for a few decades now.”

            Well I mean, I agree with you on this, so… :-/

            “Evidence or it never happened. A truth in your head not count as a fact.”

            Wait, you actually genuinely believe it’s not an issue in the UK, even after I’ve told you about it? Wow…uh, well, it’s good to be optimistic I guess, though that naivete can be dangerous…Well, I mean, it’s easy enough to find articles with Google. I originally included three links to 2 cases from the UK, and one from Canada, but it seems my posts won’t make it through when I post links, so, use Google and see for yourself I guess. I remember Sweden having cases too. Point is, in some countries it’s not safe to possess loli porn, and this includes certain western countries, unfortunately. Now you know.

            “Politely? Victim card. Said the guy who playing victim, double talk, double standards, lying, backpedaling, insulting, blaming, making excuses, make things up, etc.”

            All I hear is “bullshit, bullshit, bullshit”.

            And you filled up your daily quota of random “retard” insults as always, I see. You really are a bitter little man, huh? Did your parents not love you enough as a kid, is that why you’re such an ass? And you really should stop trying to brush everything I say off as me playing the victim card. It’s getting pretty jarring already when you try to do it that often, only for me to explain time and time again how you’re wrong. But of course, when you’re insulted by something I say, it’s not playing the victim card, and is totally justified to be offended by. Hypocrisy at its finest.

            Well, you dismiss everything I say as “victim card” etc, keep insulting me, and won’t even accept my apology (heck, you pretended like you never read it) lol. Even when I’m just explaining stuff, you only respond with hate. I must have reaaaally stepped on your toes with that first comment, huh? Good grief. It’s sort of like listening to an angry kid shouting “NO, YOU!”. Not really getting anywhere. But whatever. Actually, scratch that, I have a hard time believing that you would be so bothered by it that you won’t listen to anything even after all this time, so I’m getting increasingly convinced that you’re just trolling. Ah well. *shrug*

          • Suki

            “calling people retards is your stick, because you’re a mean bastard.”
            – For now it’s the truth that you’re retarded if you go see a doctor and let him confirm it and if he agree with me then the truth would turn into fact. Mean? Sure. Bastard? Nah, don’t project your insecure on me.

            “But the definitions you copied to Guest’s post are for “lolicon” and “child pornography”. Neither of them are for “pedophile” or “pedophilia”, which is the term we have been discussing. Christ man, stop talking out of your ass.”
            – So definition from Dictionary and Wikipeida is now considered as “out of my ass”? Lol.

            “no one is trying to claim that being a pedophile is synonymous with being a child molester, or that reading loli porn is likely to make you want to molest real children (the people who think that are the same dumb people who think videogames will make you a murderer. They’re idiots).”
            – Double talk, double standard. Said the guy tried to accused me as pedophile lol.

            “See? Nowhere does it say that said prebuscent children have to be real children. Even if I copied the entire article you won’t find any such words.”
            – Another perfect evidence that you can’t tell the different between reality and fiction. The definition exactly said “children.” Do I need to remind you that pixels and paper are not children? LMAO!

            “Absolute bullshit. You’re just trying to spin my not separating the terms “lolicon” and “pedophile” from each other the way you do to being synonymous with me not being able to tell the difference between a drawing and a real life kid, which is horseshit.
            – Victim card. I quoted your words and pointed out exactly what wrong with your logic and back up my claims with evidences. All you doing here is accusing me for your own retardation.

            “I can tell the difference just fine, I mean the only way anyone wouldn’t be able to tell the difference is if they are blind or don’t have eyes. What we’re discussing here is the use of the word “pedophile” and its definition.”
            – LMAO! Said the guy who just leaked memoir like a dozen times that he can’t tell the different. Yeah, sure. Whatever float your boat.

            “Oh yeah? Do you always “point things out” by insulting people multiple times in one post when you want to correct them on what you perceive as a mistake on their part?”
            – Victim card. There’s nothing wrong with how I say it I can say how ever I like or are you against freedom of speech? Lol. And the fact that you can’t even deny it and contradicting yourself are another perfect evidences.

            “Don’t act like you’re not the one who started this, man. If all you had done was to simply object to my use of the word, we wouldn’t be having this discussion.”
            – Victim card. You’re the one take my first post personally.

            “I might not have agreed with you on what is the correct use, but I wouldn’t have argued.”
            – Victim card. Pretty sure nobody pointed gun at your head and forced you to. 😉

            “This argument started because you decided you just had to be a dick about it.”
            – Victim card. The fact is you’re the first one that post on this page and take my first post personally. 😉

            “So the very few instances of me insulting you are not okay, but when you bombard me with tons more insults, and insult me first, no less, it’s just you calling me out on bullshit, and it’s fine,
            – Victim card and hypocrite. Said the guy who bombarded and insulted me in the 2nd post of yours.

            “and when I point this out, I’m just playing the victiom card? Hypocrisy much, man?”
            – The facts is I already pointed out multiple times as to how and why it is. All you did is accusing me without anything to back up your words.

            “I also said: “I had no intention of offending you or anyone else with my initial comment. It seems I did, so apologies for that.” at the end of the very same post. But I guess you missed that. Maybe you missed it on purpose. I wouldn’t put it past you at this point…”
            – Victim card, lying, backpedaling. How is that called “apologize”? Sorry but I’m not a retard.

            “Except said first post wasn’t directed at you or anyone else –snip–lot of bs– that could have been avoided, if you had just chosen not to be mean about it.”
            – Victim card. “I’m not shit directly on your face but inside the room so its fine. It’s your fault for complaining about the smell!” LMAO!

            “But I DIDN’T call you a pedophile! Christ, why is this so hard for you to understand?”
            – Victim card. Sure you didn’t directly called me one. You implying that I’m the one without saying the word while used double talk.

            “I was commenting on the manga. Not you. I didn’t insult you. How is me refering to a manga as “pedoshit” the same as me calling you a pedophile? Come on now.”
            – Playing the victim. I already pointed out 2 times before this one, it’s in the 2nd post of yours. You just pretending to not see it or really not see it because of your retardation.

            “It’s not my fault you chose to be offended by something not even directed at you or anyone else.”
            – Victim card. 3 accusation in on your 2nd post is not by chance. Sorry I’m not a retard.

            “as I previously mentioned that I suspected, well then I already apologized for that, didn’t I? Jesus…”
            – Lying. Where? 😉

            “makes you a hypocrite considering you chose to be offended by my initial post”
            – How I’m a hypocrite for pointed out your bullshit? And you’re the one that offended because I pointed your bullshit out.

            “My point was that if I was retarded, my English would surely be way worse, and I wouldn’t be able to write a coherent conversation like this”
            – This is another perfect evidence that you’re clearly retarded. Retardation have nothing to do with how anyone could do in lauguage. It’s more to do with how you can’t even use basic logic. You clearly didn’t use logic to reach your viewpoint in the first place. I know it’s hard for retarded person to understand this simple logic.

            “Oh that’s real rich. So I have to provide physical evidence for everything I say now, otherwise it’s a lie? Lol, please.”
            – Sorry I’m not a retard to the point to believe in anything without evidence.

            “In that case, right back at you. You’re the one making random assumptions and accusations at me, but I have to prove that you’re wrong, while you can just say whatever you want? Get the fuck outta here.”
            – Victim card. I quoted you exactly what you said and pointed out with logic. You’re the one that all over the place. 😉

            “And your constant accusations of me lying whenever your constant dumb assumptions of me don’t match up with reality is pretty pathetic to begin with.”
            – Victim card. Said the guy who still think pixels and paper is the same as children lol.

            “LOL! ‘You’re wrong, no you’re not wrong but in rare camp, but you’re wrong!’ Oxymoron is so strong in this one.”

            “It’s: “You’re wrong about your assumptions about me -> Maybe your perception of how old I look is the exception rather than the rule? -> I feel confident that you’re wrong when it comes to how old I look”.
            This is not a case of my writing not being up to task, but a case of your reading comprehension not being up to task. Maybe my English is just better than yours?”
            – It’s still the same as: “You’re wrong, no you’re not wrong but in rare camp, but you’re wrong!’ Oxymoron is so strong in this one.” Oxymoron again. Man, retardation is very strong in this one, LMAO!

            “Hmm, why does this sound so familiar? Oh, I know, maybe it’s because it’s the exact same thing you did when you chose to be offended by my first post, which was never an insult to begin with!”
            – Victim card. I didn’t even offended by your first post, you just think I am. That’s why your 2nd post is such a mess.

            “Again, you love to accuse me of hypocrisy and double standards, but you see? You’re just as guilty yourself.
            – Victim card. How so? Point it out with logic and evidence or it never happened.

            And are you really going to claim that directly calling me a “40’s year old grumpy” is not an insult? Please.”
            – Victim card. Are you seriously butthurt over that? LOL!

            “Sure, that’s easy: “It’s more disturbing to see a 40s years old grumpy”. Direct insult, calling me a 40s old grumpy.”
            – Victim card. From Dictionary: “Grumpy means unhappy, dissatisfied or irritable.” I think you’re in 40s because your face is old. How is it telling the truth is a direct insult? Your logic is so retarded LOL.

            ““Hmm, sounds exactly like typical male feminist”. Implying I’m a feminist;Another insult.”
            – Victim card. From Dictionary: “feminist means a person whose beliefs and behavior are based on feminism.” How is this word is an insult LOL.

            “I’ll admit I was mistaken on the “clown” part, I had not heard of the “clown world” meme before.”
            – HONK HONK!

            “You should be able to see why I could make that mistake though. Unless you think everyone should be aware of that meme, though I don’t know why you would.”
            – Obviously, because you’re a victim card princess who love to butthurt over nothing and based everything on your feelings lol.

            “but when I point out how you insulted me first, directly at that, I’m just “playing the victim card” (scroll 4-5 paragraphs up for my quote and response in relation to that). Why should the unwritten rules for what is okay be different for me than for you? Double standards.”
            – Victim card. I already debunked all that and here you’re trying to blame me for everything based on your feelings.

            “Nope. I can only assume this is you failing at reading comprehension again, because to me it’s absolutely crystal clear that both say the same thing. —snip– lot of lying bullshit—-”
            – Victim card, lying, backpedaling. This is what you said in your second post in [May 2, 2019 at 2:48 PM] “Now, most importantly, the whole difference between a pedophile and a lolicon thing. First off, strictly speaking, the two terms traditionally mean the same thing.”

            “Wait, why are you quoting the wikipedia article for “lolicon”, when what we’re talking about is “pedophilia”
            – We talking about both since the beginning. You just being retarded.

            “Your quote only exists in the article about lolicons. The one for pedophilia does not have it, obviously.”
            – Victim card. Stop put the blame on Wikipedia for your own retardation. It’s pathetic.

            “Like I already said, it was just a response to you mentioning me liking lolis from Da Capo, and that I’m a hypocrite as a result. I was just explaining how they’re not actually considered lolis. It’s not an excuse, and I’m not delusional. You’re just being a dick as always.”
            – Victim card. Stop put the blame on me for your own retardation. It’s pathetic.

            “Like I said, I offered a possible answer to your question. I did not say anywhere that it was facts. I then included some information about the UK law on the subject. If you can’t see that then you either can’t read, or you’re the one that’s a retard. I have no idea why you would react that way to a simple good natured post like that, man. You have serious issues.”
            – Victim card again. How is it unfair? You said it yourself. Stop being a retard and making excuses. It’s pathetic.

            “Wait, you actually genuinely believe it’s not an issue in the UK, even after I’ve told you about it? Wow…uh, well, it’s good to be optimistic I guess, though that naivete can be dangerous…Well, I mean, it’s easy enough to find articles with Google. I originally included three links to 2 cases from the UK, and one from Canada, but it seems my posts won’t make it through when I post links, so, use Google and see for yourself I guess. I remember Sweden having cases too. Point is, in some countries it’s not safe to possess loli porn, and this includes certain western countries, unfortunately. Now you know.”
            – You’re the one that don’t understand. The issue is not about loli it’s the law and the people who enforce the law. Are you seriously think some paper/pixels or some gun could running around commit crime by ifself? That’s the most retarded logic ever.

            “All I hear is “bullshit, bullshit, bullshit”.”
            – The facts hurt, huh. 😉

            “And you filled up your daily quota of random “retard” insults as always, I see. You really are a bitter little man, huh? Did your parents not love you enough as a kid, is that why you’re such an ass?”
            – You sounds like a middle school girl LOL.

            “And you really should stop trying to brush everything I say off as me playing the victim card. It’s getting pretty jarring already when you try to do it that often”
            – Easy. Then stop using it.

            “But of course, when you’re insulted by something I say, it’s not playing the victim card, and is totally justified to be offended by. Hypocrisy at its finest.”
            – Because I insulted BASED on what you said. Even you said so, duh.

            “and won’t even accept my apology (heck, you pretended like you never read it) lol.”
            – Where is your “apologize”? Stop lying lol.

            “Even when I’m just explaining stuff, you only respond with hate.”
            – Because everything you said based on your feelings not fact or logic. Only retard did something like that.

            “I must have reaaaally stepped on your toes with that first comment, huh?”
            – Wrong, the second.

            “It’s sort of like listening to an angry kid shouting “NO, YOU!”. Not really getting anywhere.”
            – This is what happened when the giant kid based every of what he said on his feelings.

            “I have a hard time believing that you would be so bothered by it that you won’t listen to anything even after all this time”
            – Victim card. Actually you’re the one that so bothered by everything and won’t listening to anything but the feelings in your head.

            “so I’m getting increasingly convinced that you’re just trolling. Ah well.
            – At this point I’m 100% that you’re mentally retarded.

            “*shrug*”
            – Oh, don’t be like that sweet heart~ LMAO!

          • Gonna have to make a proper reply to your latest retarded post at the end of next week. I have a midterm exam on Wednesday, so I don’t have time to play games with you right now. I can see you’re just doing your usual stick anyway: hypocrisy, insults, twisting my words, ignoring stuff I’ve said where it’s convenient for you, and then acting like I’ve never said it, replying to stuff without actually replying, acting like you’ve countered an argument when you haven’t and just going “Nuh-uh! You’re stupid!”, etc lol.

    • Cael

      My forehead hurts from facepalming so hard while reading Suki. Dude can’t write two lines without embarassing himself.

      • Suki

        Then point it out what which part of what I said is wrong. With argument and evidence to support it. Of course you can’t.

        All I can see is you just trying to downplay the facts.

  • Guest

    2 Rokudaime:
    I support your point of view and just want to say that you’re not alone in this.
    I almost stop commenting anything at Doki site because of people who attacking everyone who was disgusted about CP.
    On the other hand I discussed this matter with the psychiatrist who works with the real criminals and he said that in _some_ cases all this things (like CP drawnings) helps to “release the steam” and prevent actual crime to happen. It’s still disgusting for me personally but I guess it’s fine if it’s like that.
    We all have our kinks – “one man’s trash is another man’s treasure”. Let’s just keep it moderate.
    Thanks.

    • Suki

      Attacking? I didn’t know pointing out bullshit is now considered as attacking now. People are now that thin skin nowadays? For me attacking is more of a punch to the face with physical force than anything. But “muh feelings” right? Lol.

      If there is “CP” on Doki website then I ask you why Doki still can operate with out interference of law enforcement? But from the look of it I’m sure you can’t answer me that. Do I need to mentions that CP is “illegal” in most countries on this planet?

      Here some hints: Recently 82 persons just got arrested in the PizzaGate. All the victims are actual REAL LIFE CHILDREN. But why loli porn is legal in Japan I wonder? Maybe because… I don’t know… maybe because its not real? No, no, no, that impossible! Because fictional characters have human rights, right?

      Murder is illegal. But you can killing people in video game. I wondering why is that? Why all the kids killing each others in game like Fortnite don’t get arrest? Maybe because its not real and don’t have any real victim?

      “Strictly speaking, Lolita complex in Japanese refers to the paraphilia itself, but the abbreviation lolicon can also refer to an individual who has the paraphilia.[4] Lolicon is widespread in Japan, where it is a frequent subject of scholarly articles and criticism.” – Lolicon (Wikipedia)

      “Child pornography is pornography that exploits children for sexual stimulation. It may be produced with the direct involvement or sexual assault of a child (also known as child sexual abuse images) or it may be simulated child pornography.” – Child pornography (Wikipedia)

      “LOLI, ANIME IMAGES DON’T LEAD TO SEXUAL ASSAULT AGAINST REAL CHILDREN, SAYS DANISH REPORT” – Headline from One Angry Gamer.
      1) “To conclude, there is to our knowledge still no scientific studies that directly casts light on the presented questions. Therefore, there is also no documentation that use of fictional pictures of sexual assaults on children, or use of sex-dolls that look like children, i.e. use of materials produced and utilized with actual children being exposed to violations, alone can lead people to commit sexual assaults on children. Research furthermore indicates that people who exclusively deal with pornographic pictures of children has a lower risk of recidivating, and a small risk of being convicted of contact-assault, compared to those who already has convictions for contact-assault and pornographic pictures of children. Whether possession of fictional pornographic pictures of children and/or sex-dolls increases or decreases the risk of new criminality, we know very little about at the current time.”

      2) “For now, however, it appears as if the results seem to suggest that lolicons are in the same boat as gamers, and that just because you consume a certain kind of media doesn’t mean the media will turn you into a real-life perpetrator of a crime predicated on the content you consume. As many of you know, politicians have long argued that violent video games turn kids violent, even though time and time again research has shown that not to be true. While these reports out of Denmark are years old, they at least provide some kind of basis in negating the argument that viewing loli content turns you into a pedophile.”

      People nowadays sure dumped down and turn into retards. Can’t even answer simple question or use simple logic. No need to get to the point to discuss about something more intelligent like Federal Reserve, Agenda 21, or something more interesting.

      • Guest

        Suki I think you should look at ixlone.
        Be chill like ixlone who didn’t give a heck and even can joke about this matter.
        Because all yours “walls of text”… uh… I don’t know – are you trying to justify yourself?
        What’s wrong with you? You can’t sleep or eat because there are people with opinions different from yours?
        As for myself I can’t care less about any definition for CP or lolicon or whatever.
        Underage kids sexually unattractive because they’re physically undeveloped.
        This includes anyone who looks similar (too young).
        If you have sex with them you will harm them at least physically.
        It’s one of the BASIC instinct.
        You wrote so much but fails to understand that.
        If you disgusted when someone sexualize kids – it’s natural way of behavior.
        And it doesn’t much matter is it fictional children or not – if they’re sexually attractive to you – at least one of your instinct didn’t work properly.
        As I said before if you _aware_ of your own problems and can keep them under control – it’s fine, no one give a heck about you and your kinks. Just keep’em to yourself.
        Or for God’s sake be like ixlone or some other people here in the comments.
        KTXBY.

        • Suki

          Said the guy who can’t read, can’t tell the different, can’t even make a decent argument, the definitions that make up by yourself, some make up correlation, and some excuses to make yourself look good. Wow, you’re definitely delusional lol.

          All you did in this post here is just trying to convince me to not argue with you with “be like that guy” and “that’s not a good look” and running away as soon as you post your comment. You sounds scared shitless lol.

          “As I said before if you _aware_ of your own problems and can keep them under control – it’s fine, no one give a heck about you and your kinks. Just keep’em to yourself.”
          – You should telling that to yourself. 😉

  • Kyouma

    Are you searching that desperately for attention, Suki? Or is your noradrenalin production out of control?

    • Suki

      Are you sure that you can read, Kyouma? I’m pretty sure I don’t have any problem with noradrenaline. But are you sure that not you yourself that low on noradrenaline since you seems to have problem with basic function like reading?

      • Kyouma

        Oh? Wasn’t it you who made baseless assumptions about Rokudaime in your first comment? I’m not intending do defend anyone here, but a comment section is the wrong place for an attention whore.

  • Suki

    Said they guy who made total “baseless assumptions” about me in your first comment. Did you have direct access to my medical record or real time physical activity tracker or something?

    You accused me that I made “baseless assumptions.” If you don’t have problem with basic function like reading then how about you point out exactly which part of my comment is a “baseless assumptions”?

    And you made another “baseless assumption” and accusing me that what I want is attention and insult me with the word “attention whore.”

    Me, an attention whore? Someone who using a completely random and fake name, fake e-mail, and behind VPN. And what attention can do? Can I trade it with some cheap cup-ramen? Here, the chance for you to shine and get the so-called attention thingy, enlighten me.

    • Kyouma

      “It’s more disturbing to see a 40s years old grumpy who still can’t tell the different between reality and fiction in this day and age. Even worse when he obviously have no idea what the different between pedophile and lolicon. Hmm, sounds exactly like typical male feminist.”

      I would call that baseless or even provoking.

      Not quite right. I didn’t assume you want attention; I just got the impression from the walls of text you leaved here. That a problem?

      • Suki

        “I would call that baseless.”
        – How is that “baseless assumptions” if my opinions based on his PICTURE and his WORDS?

        “or even provoking”
        – Provoking? Pointing out bullshit is now provoking too? I would say your comments are the ones that “baseless assumptions” and “provoking.”

        “Not quite right. I didn’t assume you want attention; I just got the impression from the walls of text you leaved here.
        – Said the guy who called me “attention whore.” That’s not assuming or impression. That’s called BACKPEDALING. Sorry but I’m not a retard.

        “That a problem?”
        – Yeah, that’s a problem. You clearly to have problem with basic function like reading and starting to suffered severe retardation.

  • randomuser

    oh man. this got to be the burn of the century hahaha.

    based doki for not be thoughtpolice and not delete comment and for have very good taste in loli. the more loli the better!

  • Rule34

    Yes, Yes, YES!!!
    Let the butthurt flow through you!

    And that is one of the reasons why we need lolis btw – to keep normies away from anime/manga. Anything that a normie touch turns to shit.

    • I am about as far from a normie as it gets. Anime, manga, games and visual novels have been the main part of my life for a good 16 years now. And I wasn’t offended by the manga, I just personally think it’s kind of gross. There’s a huge difference between those two things. I find cockroaches kind of gross, but they don’t offend me. Governments arresting people and ruining their lives for dumb reasons like reading loli porn on the other hand actually, literally offends me. So I’m not the enemy. I never intended to offend anyone with my initial comment. But it pissed Suki off, and that started this whole thing. In hindsight, although I only commented on the manga, I probably should have kept my opinion to myself, so as to avoid this kind of situation. It is a little sad though that people can’t comment negatively on something without fans of that something getting furious and attacking people as a result. I honestly wish we could all just get along, since we all obviously like anime, manga etc…

  • CinT

    I really miss the old days when anime, manga and game considered as hobbies for losers and nerds.

    If you retarded normies don’t like loli then don’t watch/read/comment and fuck off back to your RetardEra/Reddit/Twatter/whatever. All you ever do is whining, complaining, bitching & moaning. So many game, anime, manga in the pass few years got censored/banned or turns to shit because of you. All of you low IQ subhuman normies are literally cancer.

    • Loser nerd and non-normie here (and I don’t use Twitter or Reddit, thankfully). I am about as far from a normie as it gets. Anime, manga, games and visual novels have been the main part of my life for a good 16 years now. And I wasn’t offended by the manga, I just personally think it’s kind of gross. There’s a huge difference between those two things. I find cockroaches kind of gross, but they don’t offend me. Governments arresting people and ruining their lives for dumb reasons like reading loli porn on the other hand actually, literally offends me. So I’m not the enemy. I never intended to offend anyone with my initial comment. But it pissed Suki off, and that started this whole thing. In hindsight, although I only commented on the manga, I probably should have kept my opinion to myself, so as to avoid this kind of situation. It is a little sad though that people can’t comment negatively on something without fans of that something getting furious and attacking people as a result. I honestly wish we could all just get along, since we all obviously like anime, manga etc…100% agree with you about the censoring and banning as well btw. That shit is pure cancer, ruining all our good stuff.

      • CinT

        As usual blaming everything except your retarded self.

        Who want to get along with a low IQ subhuman trash like you?

        STFU. GTFO.

  • Salt Miner

    In conclusion.
    – Loli is still be the best tool for retardation check.
    – There is no cure for retardation.

  • Guest

    I was thinking about this a bit and I guess I found stumbling-block. Maybe I’m wrong but I leave it here anyway.
    All the people who feel offended because someone disgusted by things like this doujin just miss one important thing. Even if I disgusted with this it’s not that I will or want to forbid this kind of things (unless no real harm to people was done).
    Tastes differ. But some toxic people (like SJW mentioned above) actually trying to ban and forbid everything that they didn’t like.
    That’s the main difference.
    I don’t like, but I don’t give a heck.
    They don’t like _and_ trying to forbid.
    You all feel offended because you afraid that I or Rokudaime too (if not – it’s my own assumption) will take the things that you like away (forbid or somehow prevent it from happen). But we are not going to do that. We just didn’t like it and that’s all.
    And because you’re attacking everyone without understanding this you’re marginalizing yourselves. Normal people (not yours “cancer normies”) never welcome things like abuse censorship, SJW and other toxic cr*p. We should fight shoulder to shoulder, but we fighting each other instead. “Divide and rule” in its finest – I guess all yours toxic “retarded normies” outsmart you in the end, huh?

    • Suki

      “All the people who feel offended because someone disgusted”
      – Anyone that can read would realized that people here didn’t offended. They were ANNOYED that Rokudaime and some others can’t tell the different between reality and fiction. And his latest post still indicated that he still can’t tell the different and being retarded.

      “And because you’re attacking everyone without understanding this”
      – Victim card. “OMG! Guys stop pointing out our bullshit and hurts muh feelings!”

      “you’re marginalizing yourselves”
      – This is clearly a projection. You feel “targeted” and “attacked” because you’ve been identified as having privilege. Maybe it’s time for you to stop marginalizing yourselves and thinking based on your feelings.

      “We should fight shoulder to shoulder, but we fighting each other instead.”
      – I don’t know about the others but I’m sure as hell don’t want any insane people that can’t tell the different between reality and fiction on my side.

      “A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear.” – Taylor Caldwell, A Pillar of Iron.

      “I guess all yours toxic “retarded normies” outsmart you in the end, huh?”
      – I’m pretty sure you’re still delusional and retarded. Before you can outsmart anyone I think you should learn how to read first.

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